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>Seriously?! How did they justify donating to the truckers as something to be punished? That sounds almost like a police state to me. So imagine Trudeau's poin

>Seriously?! How did they justify donating to the truckers as something to be punished? That sounds almost like a police state to me. So imagine Trudeau's point of view. The Canadian media smeared the protest as nazis, racists, white supremacists, who were going to Ottawa to overthrow the government. Indie and international media clearly disproved this, but Trudeau never saw this. Joel Lightbound, one of Trudeau's top allies saw this. So imagine you are Trudeau. You believe that a bunch of nazis are looking to overthrow the government. You absolutely declare a national emergency and send the police to arrest them. You also seize the bank accounts of those who are involved in the military occupation of the capital. The problem? The canadian media was lying quite extensively. This was a legitimate protest of regular canadians who are good people.

account42 5y ago
I don't think you can excuse this by blaming the media - shouldn't it be the government's responsibility to make sure they have the correct information before making use of emergency powers?
- incomingpain 5y ago
  >I don't think you can excuse this by blaming the media - shouldn't it be the government's responsibility to make sure they have the correct information before making use of emergency powers? I never intended to excuse anything. The media is bought and paid for by the government. This is the state propaganda who called the protest a bunch of nazis. Worse yet... Joel Lightbound is a liberal quebec MP. He made the huge mistake of going to the protest and talk to them and he was astounded by how misrepresented the protest was by Canadian media. Over a week before the emergency was declared he said exactly what should happen. Stop the inflammatory messaging calling them all nazis, they are not nazis. Give us a roadmap to when our rights will be restored. That would have solved the entire problem long before anything went down. Today, not only did everything that the protest was protesting still remains without a roadmap, they have added new restrictions to our rights.
mrozbarry 5y ago
CBC is literally state-funded media, and Trudea literally lives in Ottawa. In no world does he have an excuse to be blind, and even in some sliver of hope where he honestly didn't know, why didn't he make a public apology?
- incomingpain 5y ago
philistine 5y ago
The leaders of the protest sought to overthrow the government. It was written on their list of demands. https://conservativespolitics.com/leaders-of-truck-convoy-protests-sought-to-overthrow-government-national-security-adviser-says/ https://conservativespolitics.com/leaders-of-truck-convoy-pr...
- incomingpain 5y ago
  >The leaders of the protest sought to overthrow the government. It was written on their list of demands. https://conservativespolitics.com/leaders-of-truck-convoy-pr https://conservativespolitics.com/leaders-of-truck-convoy-pr... I dont know this website. Article written March 10th well after the fact and just hosts a very clearly one sided view of this. Jody thomas? I dont know wtf this is about. Let me explain in much better detail about what you're trying to get at. There was a website named 'canada unity' who put together a MOU in which called on the governor general to inform Trudeau that he has to return our charter rights. In a way you can read it as saying the governor general is overthrowing the government by effectively dissolving Trudeau's government. This poorly put together was run by JAMES BAUDER and his wife. They were never even for a second one of the protest leaders. Yet the canadian media portrayed this website as THE protest leaders. Used this MOU as justification of calling on the governor general to overthrow the government's sovereignty. This is how they are claiming the protest was overthrowing the government. So for example: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/who-is-who-a-guide-to-the-major-players-in-the-trucker-convoy-protest-1.5776441 https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/who-is-who-a-guide-to-the-majo... Notice how James Bauder is literally the top of the list. But wait lets look at this closer. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-chris-barber-arrested-ottawa-1.6355960 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-chris-barb... Ctrl + f "bauder": 0 results. James Bauder was nobody. Tamara Lich was the key organizer. Involvement in several previous protests. She represented the protest in negotiations with the mayor of ottawa. She represented the protest in court over the honking situation. Chris Barber had Jordan Peterson's audience. Pat King is an actor on the otherhand. His acting played the canadian media's bias against themselves so badly. What exactly was the crime the protest was committing. Parking violations really. The only problem that anyone can explain about this peaceful protest is ParKing violations. Yet here we are, everyone is a nazis, confederates, racists. Pat King offered the canadian media every prejudice, every biased hate thing he could think of. He got into the limelight because they ate up everything he said. He gave them everything they ever wanted on a golden platter. For multiple elections conservatives have run on the plan to defund these lying canadian media. They got played big time. Flipside, we're now a month later and pat king is still in jail. Original charge was just 'counseling mischief' but the new charges are 'counseling a felony that wasnt committed." Absurd vague fake charges to crush a peaceful protest.

account42 5y ago

I don't think you can excuse this by blaming the media - shouldn't it be the government's responsibility to make sure they have the correct information before making use of emergency powers?

incomingpain 5y ago
>I don't think you can excuse this by blaming the media - shouldn't it be the government's responsibility to make sure they have the correct information before making use of emergency powers? I never intended to excuse anything. The media is bought and paid for by the government. This is the state propaganda who called the protest a bunch of nazis. Worse yet... Joel Lightbound is a liberal quebec MP. He made the huge mistake of going to the protest and talk to them and he was astounded by how misrepresented the protest was by Canadian media. Over a week before the emergency was declared he said exactly what should happen. Stop the inflammatory messaging calling them all nazis, they are not nazis. Give us a roadmap to when our rights will be restored. That would have solved the entire problem long before anything went down. Today, not only did everything that the protest was protesting still remains without a roadmap, they have added new restrictions to our rights.

mrozbarry 5y ago

CBC is literally state-funded media, and Trudea literally lives in Ottawa. In no world does he have an excuse to be blind, and even in some sliver of hope where he honestly didn't know, why didn't he make a public apology?

incomingpain 5y ago

philistine 5y ago

The leaders of the protest sought to overthrow the government. It was written on their list of demands. https://conservativespolitics.com/leaders-of-truck-convoy-protests-sought-to-overthrow-government-national-security-adviser-says/ https://conservativespolitics.com/leaders-of-truck-convoy-pr...

incomingpain 5y ago
>The leaders of the protest sought to overthrow the government. It was written on their list of demands. https://conservativespolitics.com/leaders-of-truck-convoy-pr https://conservativespolitics.com/leaders-of-truck-convoy-pr... I dont know this website. Article written March 10th well after the fact and just hosts a very clearly one sided view of this. Jody thomas? I dont know wtf this is about. Let me explain in much better detail about what you're trying to get at. There was a website named 'canada unity' who put together a MOU in which called on the governor general to inform Trudeau that he has to return our charter rights. In a way you can read it as saying the governor general is overthrowing the government by effectively dissolving Trudeau's government. This poorly put together was run by JAMES BAUDER and his wife. They were never even for a second one of the protest leaders. Yet the canadian media portrayed this website as THE protest leaders. Used this MOU as justification of calling on the governor general to overthrow the government's sovereignty. This is how they are claiming the protest was overthrowing the government. So for example: https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/who-is-who-a-guide-to-the-major-players-in-the-trucker-convoy-protest-1.5776441 https://www.ctvnews.ca/canada/who-is-who-a-guide-to-the-majo... Notice how James Bauder is literally the top of the list. But wait lets look at this closer. https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-chris-barber-arrested-ottawa-1.6355960 https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/ottawa/tamara-lich-chris-barb... Ctrl + f "bauder": 0 results. James Bauder was nobody. Tamara Lich was the key organizer. Involvement in several previous protests. She represented the protest in negotiations with the mayor of ottawa. She represented the protest in court over the honking situation. Chris Barber had Jordan Peterson's audience. Pat King is an actor on the otherhand. His acting played the canadian media's bias against themselves so badly. What exactly was the crime the protest was committing. Parking violations really. The only problem that anyone can explain about this peaceful protest is ParKing violations. Yet here we are, everyone is a nazis, confederates, racists. Pat King offered the canadian media every prejudice, every biased hate thing he could think of. He got into the limelight because they ate up everything he said. He gave them everything they ever wanted on a golden platter. For multiple elections conservatives have run on the plan to defund these lying canadian media. They got played big time. Flipside, we're now a month later and pat king is still in jail. Original charge was just 'counseling mischief' but the new charges are 'counseling a felony that wasnt committed." Absurd vague fake charges to crush a peaceful protest.