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How do you get to 2kW per household? Even the (ridiculously high) comparisons provided by German utilities don’t claim more than 4500kWh/year for electricity. T

How do you get to 2kW per household? Even the (ridiculously high) comparisons provided by German utilities don’t claim more than 4500kWh/year for electricity. That’s about 10 kWh/day so about 0.5kW per household (yeah I’m lazy sue me). So the 200 MW kind of fit (factor of 4 off from your calculation). In practice I’d be surprised if it’s even that much. The 4500kWh number is for a 4 person household, and there aren’t 400k 4 person households in Amsterdam. And city apartments tend to be newer (aka more efficient) than the rural parts that also contribute to that average, which is also quite historic. So I would be surprised if that DC doesn’t require more energy than Amsterdam (at least the population, not sure how much heavy industry is there, but probably not too much)

jeffbee 5y ago
Would you accept the city of Amsterdam's own official renewable energy policy? ""400 MW is equivalent to the electricity consumption of 200,000 households"" https://www.amsterdam.nl/en/policy/sustainability/renewable-energy https://www.amsterdam.nl/en/policy/sustainability/renewable-...
- hnaccount_rng 5y ago
  That's certainly interesting, but it just doesn't fit with the yearly consumption data available. Even if you take a look at [1], which distributes all electric energy consumption onto citizen you barely get 6000kWh/year. Which brings us (barely) to 2kW per household (btw. I find it kind of surprising, that there is a factor of 3-4 between total and private consumption). So either they are taking all electric energy consumption and not the consumption of the household as their basis or (and more likely) they are talking about installed peak capacity necessary to provide the required electric energy over the year. But we would have to look where their marketing got their data from. [1] https://www.worlddata.info/europe/netherlands/energy-consumption.php https://www.worlddata.info/europe/netherlands/energy-consump...

jeffbee 5y ago

Would you accept the city of Amsterdam's own official renewable energy policy? ""400 MW is equivalent to the electricity consumption of 200,000 households"" https://www.amsterdam.nl/en/policy/sustainability/renewable-energy https://www.amsterdam.nl/en/policy/sustainability/renewable-...

hnaccount_rng 5y ago
That's certainly interesting, but it just doesn't fit with the yearly consumption data available. Even if you take a look at [1], which distributes all electric energy consumption onto citizen you barely get 6000kWh/year. Which brings us (barely) to 2kW per household (btw. I find it kind of surprising, that there is a factor of 3-4 between total and private consumption). So either they are taking all electric energy consumption and not the consumption of the household as their basis or (and more likely) they are talking about installed peak capacity necessary to provide the required electric energy over the year. But we would have to look where their marketing got their data from. [1] https://www.worlddata.info/europe/netherlands/energy-consumption.php https://www.worlddata.info/europe/netherlands/energy-consump...