7 ms·
> The current grading system teaches people not to ask this. I would love to see your evidence to back this claim. > Of course! Can you tell me a little bit
by mattcwilson 5y ago
> The current grading system teaches people not to ask this.
I would love to see your evidence to back this claim.
> Of course!
Can you tell me a little bit more about the pre and post measures you used? Were they numerical? Were they based on observable facts? Did they give you a sense of how close to (or far from) your goal you landed?
- kqr 5y agoPink's Drive cites some studies on grading as extrinsic motivation, and one of the Kahneman books touched on it too, but I don't remember if it was the bias or noise one. How I measure success (or recognise failure, at least) varies between problems. Sometimes quantitative, sometimes qualitative. Sometimes based on theory and process, sometimes based on observation and outcome. I rarely, however, find it meaningful to know "how close to the goal I landed" because that generally says more about the goal than the outcome.
- mattcwilson 5y agoRegarding the research - thanks! I do like Dan Pink. Kahneman is still on my to-read list. So the assertion is that, if grades act as an extrinsic motivator, they replace passion/pride/curiousity as intrinsic motivators? That argument vaguely makes sense to me but personally it feels like more of a “both and”. As for your approach to measuring success - no offense, but it sounds like the sort of vague, feel-good, don’t-fret-it sort of goal-setting that techniques like SMART goals, KPIs, and OKRs are intended to supercede. Do you do anything like those?