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Not alone, thanks for the nice post. Recently my area was very flooded, all govt resources were diverted to the larger population areas including our local volu

Not alone, thanks for the nice post. Recently my area was very flooded, all govt resources were diverted to the larger population areas including our local volunteer firefighters etc. to an extent that they even locked their doors and were uncontactable. People remember that it was the same “last time” as well. The bigger the problem the more we’re on our own. Food, logistics, shelter, welfare checks, clean up was all handled by people stepping up. No power or phone or internet for 5 days. We’re putting together plans for all that you say but also for ad hoc radio coverage. It’s worth mentioning that there’s a nontrivial amount of 5g causes vaccine people or whatever other ‘evil’ group and other social outcasts as you should expect from being in the middle of nowhere but it didn’t matter except that some welfare checks were done at the front gate haha It was interesting in that people wanted to help but didn’t know how but once centralised organisation stepped up, say, someone with 10 lasagnes could drop them off and have them distributed. Or say a restaurant 70kms away can just rock up with 100 meals. It feels good to be able to apply job skills on the fly in a real way to help real people, excuse me for thinking that though.

na85 5y ago
>Recently my area was very flooded, all govt resources were diverted to the larger population areas including our local volunteer firefighters etc. to an extent that they even locked their doors and were uncontactable. Fraser Valley? That episode made me realize just how little we can depend on the government in a real disaster. If a little bit of rain generates such a clusterfuck, what will the Big One do to us?
- regpertom 5y ago
  It would be smart for me to neither confirm nor deny but I will say no. The way I see it the government has its own concerns and they may not align with mine. Can’t necessarily be angry that they’d want to maximise helped people. Not telling us and locking the doors though not so good. The other side of that is events like US disaster Katrina where there is too many people and too much paperwork that people become helpless wards of the state. That’s what makes a disaster a disaster, a failure of normal expectations? How would an individual even begin to feed 100000 people you know? There’s a certain helpless at scale. The army did eventually show up, “the government” eventually got the power and phones up again etc. the sun did eventually appear again. A skilled individual can produce excess, that excess can be shared with others, zooming out, family then community then state then country. But as we zoom out we have to rely on abstractions and quantisations. At the level I’m talking about though it was possible to say “if you’re on this map your one of us, the rest doesn’t matter” we could then ignore the rest. Much like the government ignored us? What I’m trying to get across is a certain inspiration from being abandoned by government, big one or little one, show a little passion and violently execute an average plan! Marcus Aurelius says something about being self reliant so that you can help society, not so that you can show off but so that you’re not a burden but that’s beyond my pay grade. Somebody said that it couldn’t be done so with a smile on his face he got to it.

na85 5y ago

>Recently my area was very flooded, all govt resources were diverted to the larger population areas including our local volunteer firefighters etc. to an extent that they even locked their doors and were uncontactable. Fraser Valley? That episode made me realize just how little we can depend on the government in a real disaster. If a little bit of rain generates such a clusterfuck, what will the Big One do to us?

regpertom 5y ago
It would be smart for me to neither confirm nor deny but I will say no. The way I see it the government has its own concerns and they may not align with mine. Can’t necessarily be angry that they’d want to maximise helped people. Not telling us and locking the doors though not so good. The other side of that is events like US disaster Katrina where there is too many people and too much paperwork that people become helpless wards of the state. That’s what makes a disaster a disaster, a failure of normal expectations? How would an individual even begin to feed 100000 people you know? There’s a certain helpless at scale. The army did eventually show up, “the government” eventually got the power and phones up again etc. the sun did eventually appear again. A skilled individual can produce excess, that excess can be shared with others, zooming out, family then community then state then country. But as we zoom out we have to rely on abstractions and quantisations. At the level I’m talking about though it was possible to say “if you’re on this map your one of us, the rest doesn’t matter” we could then ignore the rest. Much like the government ignored us? What I’m trying to get across is a certain inspiration from being abandoned by government, big one or little one, show a little passion and violently execute an average plan! Marcus Aurelius says something about being self reliant so that you can help society, not so that you can show off but so that you’re not a burden but that’s beyond my pay grade. Somebody said that it couldn’t be done so with a smile on his face he got to it.