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You really need to look at which vehicles were at fault in these accidents. In the vast majority of cases, it's not the autonomous vehicle.

wolverine876 5y ago
Where is this data?
- belter 5y ago
  "...Waymo sued the California DMV this week to prevent it from revealing certain information about its cars' performance, including Waymo's internal analyses of collisions. Waymo argued that the information, including any "potential technological remediations," represents a trade secret that would have "a chilling effect across the industry" if released, and would dissuade potential market participants from investing time and resources into developing self-driving cars..." Now the question is, did the government officials who approved this, been given access to this data? And if not, why not?
  - grandmczeb 5y ago
    What government officials are you referring to? These are disclosures made to the DMV, so obviously they have access. Maybe you mean the court? But they have access too as part of the lawsuit... so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
    - belter 5y ago
      So do you mean a private company just decided to move to driverless rides with no required approval from any supervising government official? Is this like Boeing self-certification or even worst because they need no approvals at all?
      - grandmczeb 5y ago
        No? What about my response indicated that? They got a whole slew of approvals from the CPUC and DMV.
- grandmczeb 5y ago
  I don't know if there's anywhere that goes through and categorizes who's at fault, but you can look at the collision reports from the CA DMV. E.g. the report from March 9th: > The Waymo AV was stopped in traffic, eastbound on Irving Street in autonomous mode. A parked car to the right of the Waymo AV began reversing into the street and made contact with the rear right side of the Waymo AV. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/autonomous-vehicles/autonomous-vehicle-collision-reports/ https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/auto...

wolverine876 5y ago

Where is this data?

belter 5y ago
"...Waymo sued the California DMV this week to prevent it from revealing certain information about its cars' performance, including Waymo's internal analyses of collisions. Waymo argued that the information, including any "potential technological remediations," represents a trade secret that would have "a chilling effect across the industry" if released, and would dissuade potential market participants from investing time and resources into developing self-driving cars..." Now the question is, did the government officials who approved this, been given access to this data? And if not, why not?
- grandmczeb 5y ago
  What government officials are you referring to? These are disclosures made to the DMV, so obviously they have access. Maybe you mean the court? But they have access too as part of the lawsuit... so I'm not sure what you're talking about.
  - belter 5y ago
    So do you mean a private company just decided to move to driverless rides with no required approval from any supervising government official? Is this like Boeing self-certification or even worst because they need no approvals at all?
    - grandmczeb 5y ago
      No? What about my response indicated that? They got a whole slew of approvals from the CPUC and DMV.
grandmczeb 5y ago
I don't know if there's anywhere that goes through and categorizes who's at fault, but you can look at the collision reports from the CA DMV. E.g. the report from March 9th: > The Waymo AV was stopped in traffic, eastbound on Irving Street in autonomous mode. A parked car to the right of the Waymo AV began reversing into the street and made contact with the rear right side of the Waymo AV. https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/autonomous-vehicles/autonomous-vehicle-collision-reports/ https://www.dmv.ca.gov/portal/vehicle-industry-services/auto...