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That's an important lesson, but as devs mature they probably shouldn't react like that. Ideally you want to be able to keep your head on straight and obviously

That's an important lesson, but as devs mature they probably shouldn't react like that. Ideally you want to be able to keep your head on straight and obviously it's easier to work harder for someone who 'believes in you' ... but that's a bit emotive. Just do a good job, be professional, expect the same knowing you're not always going to get it and that's that. Instead of someone 'going to bat' you really want someone who's just communicating and helping you create the outcomes necessary.

quercusa 5y ago
Maybe they don't need to go to bat for you; maybe they just don't jump on the chance to throw you under the bus.
chrisseaton 5y ago
> Just do a good job Easy as that, huh? I think the comment was about what to do when you aren't able to 'just' do a good job for whatever reason, which could happen to anyone. They posted about how to handle a problem and your response was 'just don't have problems'.
- simulate-me 5y ago
  I don’t think GP was saying “just don’t have problems.” Rather, they were saying that as an experienced professional, having someone believe in you shouldn’t be the determining factor in whether or not you do a good job. You should believe in yourself and your experience.
  - XorNot 5y ago
    "As an practioner of IT, the domain of pure logic, I don't have emotions like other people" There's a reason this profession has the issues it does because the most drama heavy people are always those who think they're perfectly rational automatons.
    - simulate-me 5y ago
      This is more about building sufficient experience in something rather than being perfectly rational. For instance, think of the color green. You know green when you see it. Why? Because of the numerous experiences you’ve had that have reinforced your knowledge of the color green. Such reinforcement applies to all your other experiences as well, including engineering. After some time, you should know whether or not you’re a good engineer without external validation.

quercusa 5y ago

Maybe they don't need to go to bat for you; maybe they just don't jump on the chance to throw you under the bus.

chrisseaton 5y ago

> Just do a good job Easy as that, huh? I think the comment was about what to do when you aren't able to 'just' do a good job for whatever reason, which could happen to anyone. They posted about how to handle a problem and your response was 'just don't have problems'.

simulate-me 5y ago
I don’t think GP was saying “just don’t have problems.” Rather, they were saying that as an experienced professional, having someone believe in you shouldn’t be the determining factor in whether or not you do a good job. You should believe in yourself and your experience.
- XorNot 5y ago
  "As an practioner of IT, the domain of pure logic, I don't have emotions like other people" There's a reason this profession has the issues it does because the most drama heavy people are always those who think they're perfectly rational automatons.
  - simulate-me 5y ago
    This is more about building sufficient experience in something rather than being perfectly rational. For instance, think of the color green. You know green when you see it. Why? Because of the numerous experiences you’ve had that have reinforced your knowledge of the color green. Such reinforcement applies to all your other experiences as well, including engineering. After some time, you should know whether or not you’re a good engineer without external validation.