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Surely, the government will never arbitrarily freeze citizens' accounts by retroactively marking certain donations as illegal.

Nursie 5y ago
Where did that happen? And before you say "Canada", take note that there is no evidence that such a thing happened. One person was reported by a local politician to have had her accounts frozen, but when a list of donors was leaked later, no matching name was found. AFAICT, and I've looked, there is no decent evidence that any donors had their accounts frozen. It's just a right wing talking point. The donated funds were frozen, temporarily, while the border blockage and other illegal protest activities were cleared up. But donors? Nope.
- JetAlone 5y ago
  Even if I give you your denial, Justin Trudeau's administration did at the very least threaten to do it. If you were living with someone who threatened financial abuse against you, would you not be seriously concerned about them being financially abusive? But that's more rhetorical. I don't care that much what you think cause I know you'd be downplaying it if it did happen. And whenever it does happen (again?), you'll be out there denying it, carrying water with all the others for the establishment's ability to overreach, shielding them from consequences and making it more likely to happen in the future. You'll do it until such time as it happens to you, and then you'll be confused, and possibly sorry.
  - Nursie 5y ago
    Wow, personal abuse based on a whole series of straw men. Quality post.
    - JetAlone 5y ago
      That response gives me just a little more information, then. You will be really confused, and you also probably won't be capable of feeling remorse.
      - Nursie 5y ago
        Hmm, more personal abuse, still no content. To paraphrase your comments so far - "I don't care if what you say is factual, facts don't matter to me at all, here's a bunch of things I made up about you that I don't like" This is basically low-effort trolling. 3/10, must try harder.
- TeeMassive 5y ago
  > And before you say "Canada", take note that there is no evidence that such a thing happened. That's not true: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergency-bank-measures-finance-committee-1.6360769 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergency-bank-measures-fin... "More than 200 bank accounts worth nearly $8 million were frozen when the federal government used emergency powers to end a massive protest occupation of downtown Ottawa."
  - Nursie 5y ago
    Those bank accounts belonged to protesting truck owners, not just donors, it’s right there in the article you linked. The donated funds in the receiving accounts were frozen, temporarily, as part of the effort to end the situation, sure. But not donor accounts simply for having made the donation, as was implied in the above post. Your article does say “Some Conservative MPs have said constituents have reported that their bank accounts were frozen after they made donations”, but if you look further into that it seems to have been one MP talking about one constituent, and that doesn’t seem to be verifiable.

Nursie 5y ago

Where did that happen? And before you say "Canada", take note that there is no evidence that such a thing happened. One person was reported by a local politician to have had her accounts frozen, but when a list of donors was leaked later, no matching name was found. AFAICT, and I've looked, there is no decent evidence that any donors had their accounts frozen. It's just a right wing talking point. The donated funds were frozen, temporarily, while the border blockage and other illegal protest activities were cleared up. But donors? Nope.

JetAlone 5y ago
Even if I give you your denial, Justin Trudeau's administration did at the very least threaten to do it. If you were living with someone who threatened financial abuse against you, would you not be seriously concerned about them being financially abusive? But that's more rhetorical. I don't care that much what you think cause I know you'd be downplaying it if it did happen. And whenever it does happen (again?), you'll be out there denying it, carrying water with all the others for the establishment's ability to overreach, shielding them from consequences and making it more likely to happen in the future. You'll do it until such time as it happens to you, and then you'll be confused, and possibly sorry.
- Nursie 5y ago
  Wow, personal abuse based on a whole series of straw men. Quality post.
  - JetAlone 5y ago
    That response gives me just a little more information, then. You will be really confused, and you also probably won't be capable of feeling remorse.
    - Nursie 5y ago
      Hmm, more personal abuse, still no content. To paraphrase your comments so far - "I don't care if what you say is factual, facts don't matter to me at all, here's a bunch of things I made up about you that I don't like" This is basically low-effort trolling. 3/10, must try harder.
TeeMassive 5y ago
> And before you say "Canada", take note that there is no evidence that such a thing happened. That's not true: https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergency-bank-measures-finance-committee-1.6360769 https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/emergency-bank-measures-fin... "More than 200 bank accounts worth nearly $8 million were frozen when the federal government used emergency powers to end a massive protest occupation of downtown Ottawa."
- Nursie 5y ago
  Those bank accounts belonged to protesting truck owners, not just donors, it’s right there in the article you linked. The donated funds in the receiving accounts were frozen, temporarily, as part of the effort to end the situation, sure. But not donor accounts simply for having made the donation, as was implied in the above post. Your article does say “Some Conservative MPs have said constituents have reported that their bank accounts were frozen after they made donations”, but if you look further into that it seems to have been one MP talking about one constituent, and that doesn’t seem to be verifiable.