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> Data centers are a hard sell in general because they don't really provide too much benefit to a community. The Netherlands is already the home of some FANGs

by fivea 5y ago

> Data centers are a hard sell in general because they don't really provide too much benefit to a community. The Netherlands is already the home of some FANGs (AWS has a few edge locations in Amsterdam) and dominant hosting providers such as Cloudflare. I'm sure they'll be able to overcome the loss of Facebook.

lucb1e 5y ago
I agree (aside from that AWS might think twice about where to strategically expand further given how politics treated Facehook) but I don't get how this is related to what you quoted or any other part of GP's comment.
- smartbit 5y ago
  > given how politics treated Facehook According to today’s NRC coverstory it was the opposite: the project failed because of the aggressive lobbying demanding an exception. And Meta refusing to discuss their datacentre design. IOW it failed because of the way that Facebook treated politics. https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2022/03/30/agressieve-lobby-voor-datacentrum-in-zeewolde-nekte-facebook-a4105867 https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2022/03/30/agressieve-lobby-voor-d...
- fivea 5y ago
  > (...) but I don't get how this is related to what you quoted or any other part of GP's comment. If you read about the topic you'll soon discover that Meta/Facebook has been systematically imposing demands for preferential treatment, including demanding circumventing laws to allow agricultural land, some of which they don't even own, to instead be used to build high-density industrial buildings. This, in a country where Amazon and Microsoft already operate their own data centers. In fact, Facebook rejected the location already used by Amazon and Microsoft, and instead decided to force their way somewhere else. It's also worth mentioning some of the apparent corruption aspects of Facebook's deal, abusing preferential rights of the municipality to exclude competing bids.
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by fivea 5y ago

lucb1e 5y ago

I agree (aside from that AWS might think twice about where to strategically expand further given how politics treated Facehook) but I don't get how this is related to what you quoted or any other part of GP's comment.

smartbit 5y ago
> given how politics treated Facehook According to today’s NRC coverstory it was the opposite: the project failed because of the aggressive lobbying demanding an exception. And Meta refusing to discuss their datacentre design. IOW it failed because of the way that Facebook treated politics. https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2022/03/30/agressieve-lobby-voor-datacentrum-in-zeewolde-nekte-facebook-a4105867 https://www.nrc.nl/nieuws/2022/03/30/agressieve-lobby-voor-d...
fivea 5y ago
> (...) but I don't get how this is related to what you quoted or any other part of GP's comment. If you read about the topic you'll soon discover that Meta/Facebook has been systematically imposing demands for preferential treatment, including demanding circumventing laws to allow agricultural land, some of which they don't even own, to instead be used to build high-density industrial buildings. This, in a country where Amazon and Microsoft already operate their own data centers. In fact, Facebook rejected the location already used by Amazon and Microsoft, and instead decided to force their way somewhere else. It's also worth mentioning some of the apparent corruption aspects of Facebook's deal, abusing preferential rights of the municipality to exclude competing bids.

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