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Why can you go to the store and buy rubbing alcohol to drink? It’s primary ingredient is just ethanol. The FDA literally mandates that the ethanol is not able t
by samtho 5y ago
Why can you go to the store and buy rubbing alcohol to drink? It’s primary ingredient is just ethanol. The FDA literally mandates that the ethanol is not able to be safely consumed and is cut with poison that is not easily separated from ethanol.
Similarly, cutting opioids with Tylenol is not actually intended to be a deterrent to someone who gets their hands on the pills rather it deters people involved with illicit drug manufacture and distribution from using it as a base to grind up and sell.
Tylenol is really not super safe, at least by todays approval standards. Most official sources, which unsurprisingly have a huge bias towards Tylenol’s safety, state that allergic reactions are very uncommon, but recent meta-analysis’ are beginning to uncover that mild to moderate allergic reactions to acetaminophen is more common that originally thought. It does not get reported because if you’re already feeling like crap when you take it, some mild itchiness, redness, and discomfort would not be out of the ordinary without the Tylenol. As mentioned before, the toxic dose is much too close to the effective dose, I’ve heard from medical professionals that doubling a single recommended dose on extra strength Tylenol is enough to cause long-term damage to your liver. On top of all that, the fact that it is a weak pain reliever at best would solidly put this as a drug that’s not super useful.
I have a very low opinion of how we go about drug policy in the US. I am on a very controlled medication due to a sleep disorder (that causes hypersomnia) which I cannot go off for safety reasons. I also cannot get it filled more than 24 in advance without complicated authorization procedures that must be completed in the correct order. It’s a goddamn mess and serves only as a punishment to law-abiding patients for needing this medication. It also does nothing to curb illicit use because synthesis of a more potent product is so trivial.
This is an example of poorly targeted legislation, which was put into place because it’s the only thing they could exert control over. It does not further the stated goals of drug enforcement because it’s so easy to manufacture this stuff and the resulting product is so easy to move, bad actors can simply avoid this system. While I’m spending 3 hours every month orchestrating the complicated dance of my prescription between my providers, the pharmacy, and my insurance, someone is making a batch of shake-and-bake meth in about 3 minutes.
- rootusrootus 5y ago> Why can you go to the store and buy rubbing alcohol to drink? It’s primary ingredient is just ethanol. AFAIK most/all rubbing alcohol (at least that which is sold in the US) is isopropanol, not ethanol. You can buy ethanol in not-for-consumption form, as denatured alcohol.
- wombatpm 5y agoAnd it’s chemistry that forces the additional benzene in denatured alcohol. Water- ethanol forms an Azeotrope at 95% ethanol. Benzene is added to break the azeotrope and get to 99.99% ethanol. Chemistry not a conspiracy
- ac29 5y agoNo one is selling 99.99% grade alcohol as an antiseptic in the US. Its usually 70%. There are additives in ethanol sold as an antiseptic to discourage drinking (various bitterants, not benzene).
- MertsA 5y agoNo one is selling 70% ethanol as an antiseptic, it's isopropyl alcohol. Those additives in ethanol not intended for consumption are 8 parts acetone and 1.5 parts methyl isobutyl ketone to 100 parts ethanol. There are some rare ethanol based rubbing alcohols sold but the vast majority is isopropyl because it's not just denatured with bitterants, they add toxic substances as well. Here's the actual formula they have to use that's enshrined in the law. https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/21.49 https://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/27/21.49
- ac29 5y agoEthanol as an antiseptic is less common, but its definitely a thing: https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Rubbing-Alcohol-Antiseptic/dp/B07RB7XYQ1 https://www.amazon.com/Amazon-Brand-Rubbing-Alcohol-Antisept... Its general sold as "ethyl alcohol" not ethanol, but its the same thing.
- hedora 5y agoCalifornia apparently banned denatured alcohol because of the VOC content. I accidentally found a gray market source before discovering it is banned. Makes me wonder why they still bother denaturing it.
- aaaronic 5y agoRubbing alcohol where I am is isopropyl alcohol (which is highly toxic -- your body metabolizes it into acetone), not ethanol. A kid in my high school class ended up getting his stomach pumped when drinking it to try to get drunk.
- sparker72678 5y agoThe ethanol with methanol additive ("Denatured Alcohol") is a tax issue as well. Government wants to tax consumed ethanol.