I think my problem is in the excommunication style of dealing with cheating. Reparation and nullification of cheat wins makes sense. Beyond that? You wind up

I think my problem is in the excommunication style of dealing with cheating. Reparation and nullification of cheat wins makes sense. Beyond that? You wind up encouraging scorched earth defence of celebrities. Or worse, when the stakes start to outweigh the actual costs. Note that I'm not clear there is any path free of ego based hiding of behavior. Not do I really have actionable ideas. About the only faith item that I still have is redemption. And it is crazy to me how hard the modern world seems to try to block that off. Worse still, when allowing for redemption is mistaken for endorsing the previous behavior. Often in bad faith discussions.