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Attitudes like this is part of the problem.

ecf 5y ago
No what’s part of the problem are people claiming their lives are ruined by a mask. Extremely interesting to see how their talking points immediately were silenced when real hardship, like Ukrainians being invaded by Russia, started to hit the news cycle. Selfish, entitled, without a care for their community or fellow man. Oh and my comment was heavily upvoted before it was flagged, so keep reporting my stuff anti-vaxxers. You aren’t on the right side of history.
- spookthesunset 5y ago
  > You aren’t on the right side of history. And I could say the exact same thing of you.
  - bediger4000 5y ago
    And you'd be wrong.
    - spookthesunset 5y ago
      Not really. When the dust settles and we see the fallout caused myopic decision making by a small handful of "experts" it ain't gonna be pretty. The pandemic was real. People did die. But that doesn't mean any of what we did was right. I'd say we did virtually every single thing wrong. These "expert" scared the living daylights out of people instead of attempted to calm them. They downplayed any bit of good news (eg: the IFR for covid is way, way less than what the original models said). They promoted a culture of shaming and vitriol. They cheered on the absolute fuckage of our children by closing their schools for more than a year and then making them play safety theater when they returned. They intentionally stifled debates about what we were doing--god help anybody who questioned anything about what we've done. Oh yeah, and they mandated crap like masks. Which did nothing real and just divided people even more. 50 years from now we are gonna laugh at how stupid humans were for wearing masks in the olympics. Dudes just got done going down the hill on their snowboard in the freezing cold and then they have to wear some giant honking mask on their face--despite them being fully vaccinated and constantly tested. It's modern rain-dances.... The whole thing is pure insanity and history will not look at what we did with any kind of positive light.
      - bediger4000 5y ago
        Masks work. I haven't even had a head cold in 2 years, and I'm not alone in that. This feels like when Windows advocates say something about how Linux doesn't do X or is slow doing X, and it's just wrong. Personal experience says exactly the opposite. Saying that masks did nothing real makes everything else you wrote suspect.
        MCrekt 5y ago
        Sounds like they work for colds then. But frankly we’ve probably all had COVID whether masked, vaxed on not.
        bediger4000 5y ago
        The world had essentially no influenza season, 2020. This isn't just the US, it was everywhere. Some strain(s) may have gone extinct: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-021-00642-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-021-00642-4 Let's see, masks work against rhinovirus, influenza virus, and they magically don't work for (also respiratory) COVID? Doubt it. What possible evidence do you have for this "all had COVID" assertion? The biggest estimate I could find was 140 million in the USA: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases...
- kbelder 5y ago
  There has been a general trend throughout history of increased liberty, which would indicate you may not be on the side you think you're on.
  - somewhereoutth 5y ago
    Liberty has nothing to do with masks (or seatbelts).
    - rubyist5eva 5y ago
      It sure as hell has something to do with vaccine mandates.
- rubyist5eva 5y ago
  > Extremely interesting to see how their talking points immediately were silenced when real hardship, like Ukrainians being invaded by Russia, started to hit the news cycle. This isn't the gotcha you think it is, because it literally is just the TV-fed mainstream talking point for the "I support the current thing" crowd.

ecf 5y ago

No what’s part of the problem are people claiming their lives are ruined by a mask. Extremely interesting to see how their talking points immediately were silenced when real hardship, like Ukrainians being invaded by Russia, started to hit the news cycle. Selfish, entitled, without a care for their community or fellow man. Oh and my comment was heavily upvoted before it was flagged, so keep reporting my stuff anti-vaxxers. You aren’t on the right side of history.

spookthesunset 5y ago
> You aren’t on the right side of history. And I could say the exact same thing of you.
- bediger4000 5y ago
  And you'd be wrong.
  - spookthesunset 5y ago
    Not really. When the dust settles and we see the fallout caused myopic decision making by a small handful of "experts" it ain't gonna be pretty. The pandemic was real. People did die. But that doesn't mean any of what we did was right. I'd say we did virtually every single thing wrong. These "expert" scared the living daylights out of people instead of attempted to calm them. They downplayed any bit of good news (eg: the IFR for covid is way, way less than what the original models said). They promoted a culture of shaming and vitriol. They cheered on the absolute fuckage of our children by closing their schools for more than a year and then making them play safety theater when they returned. They intentionally stifled debates about what we were doing--god help anybody who questioned anything about what we've done. Oh yeah, and they mandated crap like masks. Which did nothing real and just divided people even more. 50 years from now we are gonna laugh at how stupid humans were for wearing masks in the olympics. Dudes just got done going down the hill on their snowboard in the freezing cold and then they have to wear some giant honking mask on their face--despite them being fully vaccinated and constantly tested. It's modern rain-dances.... The whole thing is pure insanity and history will not look at what we did with any kind of positive light.
    - bediger4000 5y ago
      Masks work. I haven't even had a head cold in 2 years, and I'm not alone in that. This feels like when Windows advocates say something about how Linux doesn't do X or is slow doing X, and it's just wrong. Personal experience says exactly the opposite. Saying that masks did nothing real makes everything else you wrote suspect.
      - MCrekt 5y ago
        Sounds like they work for colds then. But frankly we’ve probably all had COVID whether masked, vaxed on not.
        bediger4000 5y ago
        The world had essentially no influenza season, 2020. This isn't just the US, it was everywhere. Some strain(s) may have gone extinct: https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-021-00642-4 https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-021-00642-4 Let's see, masks work against rhinovirus, influenza virus, and they magically don't work for (also respiratory) COVID? Doubt it. What possible evidence do you have for this "all had COVID" assertion? The biggest estimate I could find was 140 million in the USA: https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases-nationwide/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2022/02/28/covid-cases...
kbelder 5y ago
There has been a general trend throughout history of increased liberty, which would indicate you may not be on the side you think you're on.
- somewhereoutth 5y ago
  Liberty has nothing to do with masks (or seatbelts).
  - rubyist5eva 5y ago
    It sure as hell has something to do with vaccine mandates.
rubyist5eva 5y ago
> Extremely interesting to see how their talking points immediately were silenced when real hardship, like Ukrainians being invaded by Russia, started to hit the news cycle. This isn't the gotcha you think it is, because it literally is just the TV-fed mainstream talking point for the "I support the current thing" crowd.