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I can't help looking at a story like that and wondering: "What if the 70,000 who have left and the 100,000 projected to leave are a digital infiltration force?"

by mikece 5y ago

webmaven 5y ago
It wouldn't surprise me if some of them are, but we're talking about a couple dozen at most.
lesuorac 5y ago
Sure, but insider attacks have pre-dated 2022 so if your only defense to them is not to hire people with Russian citizenship I don't think your Org is actually taking it seriously.
Jeff_Brown 5y ago
170,000 is more than 1 of every 1000 Russians -- hence far more than 1 in 1000 Russian workers. And among the top-paid workers. Hard to imagine the Russian government would want that.
netsharc 5y ago
This is so strange, you have some imagination but also lack of it. If you were in charge of an action-movie-esque force of 170000 hackers, would you ship them all out at once, after the start of a war that's upset a lot of people and might turn them against Russians (yeah it's not the ordinary citizens' fault but some people can't see the difference) as well as after a flight ban, or would you send them out to infiltrate everywhere slowly throughout the years, and when you send the signal, your force of 170K would easily hand over the keys to all the networks you want? Even a plan with a few people would usually leak or catch intelligence agencies' attention, if there's a conspiracy involving 170K people, it would be headline news before it'd even get moving.
blablabla123 5y ago
I don't think so, Russia has (or at least had) quite a vibrant tech scene with startups, tech agencies and all that with customers worldwide. Like in every other metropole. And of course the people are leaving, what should they do there now... Things like this make me really wonder if Putin ever went outside of the Kremlin, going for such a destructive action

I can't help looking at a story like that and wondering: "What if the 70,000 who have left and the 100,000 projected to leave are a digital infiltration force?"

by mikece 5y ago

I can't help looking at a story like that and wondering: "What if the 70,000 who have left and the 100,000 projected to leave are a digital infiltration force?"

webmaven 5y ago

It wouldn't surprise me if some of them are, but we're talking about a couple dozen at most.

lesuorac 5y ago

Sure, but insider attacks have pre-dated 2022 so if your only defense to them is not to hire people with Russian citizenship I don't think your Org is actually taking it seriously.

Jeff_Brown 5y ago

170,000 is more than 1 of every 1000 Russians -- hence far more than 1 in 1000 Russian workers. And among the top-paid workers. Hard to imagine the Russian government would want that.

netsharc 5y ago

This is so strange, you have some imagination but also lack of it. If you were in charge of an action-movie-esque force of 170000 hackers, would you ship them all out at once, after the start of a war that's upset a lot of people and might turn them against Russians (yeah it's not the ordinary citizens' fault but some people can't see the difference) as well as after a flight ban, or would you send them out to infiltrate everywhere slowly throughout the years, and when you send the signal, your force of 170K would easily hand over the keys to all the networks you want? Even a plan with a few people would usually leak or catch intelligence agencies' attention, if there's a conspiracy involving 170K people, it would be headline news before it'd even get moving.

blablabla123 5y ago

I don't think so, Russia has (or at least had) quite a vibrant tech scene with startups, tech agencies and all that with customers worldwide. Like in every other metropole. And of course the people are leaving, what should they do there now... Things like this make me really wonder if Putin ever went outside of the Kremlin, going for such a destructive action