If shipping is the only thing that matters, then we're in great shape. If shipping the right things matters, we're probably going to need to collaborate a bit.

If shipping is the only thing that matters, then we're in great shape. If shipping the right things matters, we're probably going to need to collaborate a bit. Over the past year, we could have killed a few features just by pushing back as a group. Instead we've waited until they've lost an A/B test. But your sentiment is exactly the point I was trying to make. Many (if not most) developers really aren't interested in any social benefit/experience. Your use of the word "rightly" puts you (and forgive me for broadly categorizing, I don't know you at all) in the "I come here to do my work and get the heck out so I can live my real life" group. For others, it's not so binary. It's not Work vs Life. Life bleeds into work, and work bleeds into life (with obvious healthy boundaries). For example, my lunch times with other developers was a high point of my day. I looked forward to talking to those folks. We tried it via Zoom. It was just awkward. My current team seems to fit with your sentiment. I'm the oddball and I'm okay with that.