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My take as someone in the industry, but at neither of these two companies: Cruise is limited (by their own choice) to operating between 11 PM and 5 AM. Waymo i

My take as someone in the industry, but at neither of these two companies: Cruise is limited (by their own choice) to operating between 11 PM and 5 AM. Waymo is operating at all hours of the day. That alone indicates a much greater level of confidence in their capabilities. The complexity of driving in a busy street in SF at daytime is dramatically higher than at night, especially in SF, which tends to be pretty sleepy after hours. Note that both companies avoid driving in SOMA, FIDI, and other challenging parts of the city.

wutbrodo 5y ago
Cruise is running _driverlessly_ at nighttime. Like Waymo, they're driving autonomously 24/7 around San Francisco, just with a safety driver. This new announcement doesn't specify their driverless hours. I suspect that they would have highlighted it if they were the first to be driving around SF in the daytime, just as they highlighted the first of being driverlessly deployed in multiple cities. My guess (also in the industry) would be that Waymo combines Google's incredible technical skill with Google's incredible incompetence at focused execution. This is why they haven't had a milestone in a couple years since their deployment in Phoenix. I also think that this combination of strengths and weaknesses is a good fit for the AV industry.
- avthrowaway35 5y ago
  They include footage of their drive without a safety operator and it’s in the middle of the day. https://youtu.be/O8TSA-X9UlU https://youtu.be/O8TSA-X9UlU
  - jeffbee 5y ago
    I wonder what the little icon is that the Waymo viz is putting on top of those double-parked cars.
    - CobrastanJorji 5y ago
      I'd guess you answered your own question. It's an icon of a car next to some car-shaped blobs, so "double parked" or "stopped in a traffic lane" sounds like a good guess.
  - wutbrodo 5y ago
    You are correct, and it says so in the article. Really not sure how I missed that. Sorry!
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wutbrodo 5y ago

Cruise is running _driverlessly_ at nighttime. Like Waymo, they're driving autonomously 24/7 around San Francisco, just with a safety driver. This new announcement doesn't specify their driverless hours. I suspect that they would have highlighted it if they were the first to be driving around SF in the daytime, just as they highlighted the first of being driverlessly deployed in multiple cities. My guess (also in the industry) would be that Waymo combines Google's incredible technical skill with Google's incredible incompetence at focused execution. This is why they haven't had a milestone in a couple years since their deployment in Phoenix. I also think that this combination of strengths and weaknesses is a good fit for the AV industry.

avthrowaway35 5y ago
They include footage of their drive without a safety operator and it’s in the middle of the day. https://youtu.be/O8TSA-X9UlU https://youtu.be/O8TSA-X9UlU
- jeffbee 5y ago
  I wonder what the little icon is that the Waymo viz is putting on top of those double-parked cars.
  - CobrastanJorji 5y ago
    I'd guess you answered your own question. It's an icon of a car next to some car-shaped blobs, so "double parked" or "stopped in a traffic lane" sounds like a good guess.
- wutbrodo 5y ago
  You are correct, and it says so in the article. Really not sure how I missed that. Sorry!

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