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They sometimes post videos of situations they deal with, especially around bikers and pedestrians. It's quite impressive how well it handles such cases. https:

They sometimes post videos of situations they deal with, especially around bikers and pedestrians. It's quite impressive how well it handles such cases. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWvhw1KCmbo https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWvhw1KCmbo

yellow_lead 5y ago
The marketing video vs. the in-the-field video: https://youtu.be/zdKCQKBvH-A?t=833 https://youtu.be/zdKCQKBvH-A?t=833
- ra7 5y ago
  500k fully driverless miles in Arizona and this is still the only video where it’s actually demonstrated a “failure”. That says something. In fact, the very same channel (JJ Ricks) has a ton of in-the-field Waymo videos where it works exceedingly well.
  - darknavi 5y ago
    > That says something. Perhaps that not everyone records a taxi ride and posts it on YouTube.
    - ra7 5y ago
      That’s fair. But a lot of them also just try out Waymo for the cool factor and capture the ride (like myself).
      - darknavi 5y ago
        Definitely. I still think it is very impressive, I just think they have probably had a few more "bad rides" than this video.
- DominikPeters 5y ago
  This is a very safe way to fail though, with no vulnerable road users nearby.
  - judge2020 5y ago
    But at 16:46 it continues on and moves into traffic before once again failing, this time with people having to go into the oncoming turn lane to go around the Waymo vehicle.
- londons_explore 5y ago
  It's notable that most of the failures in that video are human process and communication failures, not failures of the self driving system itself. It's the kind of thing that could all be fixed in a few days of rehearsals of what to do when cars get into this state. I suspect that the main failure was that rider support had a button to 'pull over', but that the route to pull over was blocked by a cone, so the car failed to pull over, and then rider support seeing the failure probably tried to cancel the pullover (to try again), and it ended up keeping driving. A simple logic change or even just better training/documentation could have fixed this.
simulate-me 5y ago
The video contained almost no information. Just a clip of a cyclist cutting in front of a Waymo car and then a cut back to the Waymo employee. It doesn't even show how the car responded.
- phoe18 5y ago
  I think this blog goes into more detail: https://blog.waymo.com/2021/06/beyond-the-bike-lane.html https://blog.waymo.com/2021/06/beyond-the-bike-lane.html
  - simulate-me 5y ago
    That still doesn't say anything other than "our data includes interactions with cyclists." As far as I can tell, they don't treat cyclists any different than they do other obstacles on the road.
    - ehsankia 5y ago
      They do, the model specifically marks cyclist, pedestrian and other obstacles as different, and they discuss how they're modeled differently. Furthermore, they have videos talking about their simulation system, and how they create thousands of "variations" of each scenario, with the "obstacle" doing different things.
kilotaras 5y ago
That is ridiculous intersection. What is the point of bike lane if it's used as turn lane anyway?

yellow_lead 5y ago

The marketing video vs. the in-the-field video: https://youtu.be/zdKCQKBvH-A?t=833 https://youtu.be/zdKCQKBvH-A?t=833

ra7 5y ago
500k fully driverless miles in Arizona and this is still the only video where it’s actually demonstrated a “failure”. That says something. In fact, the very same channel (JJ Ricks) has a ton of in-the-field Waymo videos where it works exceedingly well.
- darknavi 5y ago
  > That says something. Perhaps that not everyone records a taxi ride and posts it on YouTube.
  - ra7 5y ago
    That’s fair. But a lot of them also just try out Waymo for the cool factor and capture the ride (like myself).
    - darknavi 5y ago
      Definitely. I still think it is very impressive, I just think they have probably had a few more "bad rides" than this video.
DominikPeters 5y ago
This is a very safe way to fail though, with no vulnerable road users nearby.
- judge2020 5y ago
  But at 16:46 it continues on and moves into traffic before once again failing, this time with people having to go into the oncoming turn lane to go around the Waymo vehicle.
londons_explore 5y ago
It's notable that most of the failures in that video are human process and communication failures, not failures of the self driving system itself. It's the kind of thing that could all be fixed in a few days of rehearsals of what to do when cars get into this state. I suspect that the main failure was that rider support had a button to 'pull over', but that the route to pull over was blocked by a cone, so the car failed to pull over, and then rider support seeing the failure probably tried to cancel the pullover (to try again), and it ended up keeping driving. A simple logic change or even just better training/documentation could have fixed this.

simulate-me 5y ago

The video contained almost no information. Just a clip of a cyclist cutting in front of a Waymo car and then a cut back to the Waymo employee. It doesn't even show how the car responded.

phoe18 5y ago
I think this blog goes into more detail: https://blog.waymo.com/2021/06/beyond-the-bike-lane.html https://blog.waymo.com/2021/06/beyond-the-bike-lane.html
- simulate-me 5y ago
  That still doesn't say anything other than "our data includes interactions with cyclists." As far as I can tell, they don't treat cyclists any different than they do other obstacles on the road.
  - ehsankia 5y ago
    They do, the model specifically marks cyclist, pedestrian and other obstacles as different, and they discuss how they're modeled differently. Furthermore, they have videos talking about their simulation system, and how they create thousands of "variations" of each scenario, with the "obstacle" doing different things.

kilotaras 5y ago

That is ridiculous intersection. What is the point of bike lane if it's used as turn lane anyway?