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I'm really unsure why people still decide to build their companies under Google products

by savant_penguin 5y ago

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carrolyda 5y ago
Is there any cloud/PaaS/SaaS company without a "we can terminate your account at any time for any reason"-clause? Otherwise you still have the same problem wherever you go.
- tedivm 5y ago
  Technically sure, but in reality that's not the case. I've personally seen people lose their GCP account for weeks over amazingly stupid stuff- if that same stuff happened at AWS I'd get a phone call from an account manager to clarify things and humans would be involved in the decision to shut things down. Google has a history of excluding humans from their processes, with no recourse for when their automation breaks except to complain online and hope someone important enough hears you. That's not something people can trust.
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- lima 5y ago
  There isn't. Google is just in the news more frequently simply because they have many customers, but that doesn't make it any less of a problem (across the board, not just Google).
belter 5y ago
What about Google scanning Company ownership records, without authorization, adding your own residence in Google Maps as the company headquarters, and then prompting you to take over the record on their own system if you are the company owner?
bluescrn 5y ago
Android has a ~70% share of the mobile device market, that seems reason enough. (Although more focus on the mobile web rather than apps might be a good thing)
- toqy 5y ago
  I haven't checked in a while, but with Apple you used to have a much better chance of people shelling out money for/in your app.
- voakbasda 5y ago
  They only have that share because developers continue to support their platform. Too bad developer greed prevents an effective boycott of their ecosystem. If enough people stopped giving them money, they would change.
  - thatguy0900 5y ago
    To go further, any competition to Google and Apple are killed in the cradle by developers refusing to support their platform.
  - Gareth321 5y ago
    I think it's a bit more complicated than greed. Remember that the only mobile development shops in town are iOS and Android, and they're both run by tyrants. There are millions of developers who only know mobile development. Giving up their skillset to learn a whole new profession is difficult.
  - _Algernon_ 5y ago
    Your criticism essentially boils down to "Too bad human behavior is the way it is". Sure, I agree, but it's pretty unactionable.
realusername 5y ago
There's only two options on mobile and both are terrible.

I'm really unsure why people still decide to build their companies under Google products

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carrolyda 5y ago

Is there any cloud/PaaS/SaaS company without a "we can terminate your account at any time for any reason"-clause? Otherwise you still have the same problem wherever you go.

tedivm 5y ago
Technically sure, but in reality that's not the case. I've personally seen people lose their GCP account for weeks over amazingly stupid stuff- if that same stuff happened at AWS I'd get a phone call from an account manager to clarify things and humans would be involved in the decision to shut things down. Google has a history of excluding humans from their processes, with no recourse for when their automation breaks except to complain online and hope someone important enough hears you. That's not something people can trust.
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lima 5y ago
There isn't. Google is just in the news more frequently simply because they have many customers, but that doesn't make it any less of a problem (across the board, not just Google).

belter 5y ago

What about Google scanning Company ownership records, without authorization, adding your own residence in Google Maps as the company headquarters, and then prompting you to take over the record on their own system if you are the company owner?

bluescrn 5y ago

Android has a ~70% share of the mobile device market, that seems reason enough. (Although more focus on the mobile web rather than apps might be a good thing)

toqy 5y ago
I haven't checked in a while, but with Apple you used to have a much better chance of people shelling out money for/in your app.
voakbasda 5y ago
They only have that share because developers continue to support their platform. Too bad developer greed prevents an effective boycott of their ecosystem. If enough people stopped giving them money, they would change.
- thatguy0900 5y ago
  To go further, any competition to Google and Apple are killed in the cradle by developers refusing to support their platform.
- Gareth321 5y ago
  I think it's a bit more complicated than greed. Remember that the only mobile development shops in town are iOS and Android, and they're both run by tyrants. There are millions of developers who only know mobile development. Giving up their skillset to learn a whole new profession is difficult.
- _Algernon_ 5y ago
  Your criticism essentially boils down to "Too bad human behavior is the way it is". Sure, I agree, but it's pretty unactionable.

realusername 5y ago

There's only two options on mobile and both are terrible.