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> HFCS isn't used much in Europe, Maybe in the past, but these days when I do grocery shopping in Poland, most products have it

cameronh90 5y ago
https://www.diabetes.org.uk/research/research-round-up/behind-the-headlines/high-fructose-corn-syrup-fuelling-diabetes https://www.diabetes.org.uk/research/research-round-up/behin... At least in the UK, we consume very little HFCS, but we are one of the European nations closest behind the US on the obesity scale. No idea how much HFCS you have in Poland, but you're relatively thin compared to us, so if you have more HFCS.. possibly points the finger at something other than HFCS content. Also it's interesting that pets, lab animals and city wildlife are getting fat globally too on a similar curve to humans.
- simonh 5y ago
  Poster said these days, so it may be HFCS just hasn't been common in Poland for long enough to have a demographic effect. Personally I think yes HFCS is a problem, but basically it's just massive consumption of surplus calories.
  - amanaplanacanal 5y ago
    I still can’t see how that would affect lab animals on a tightly controlled diet.
    - simonh 5y ago
      How what would affect them, massive consumption of excess calories or consumption of HFCS? And affect them how? I'm guessing it makes them fat, but as I said I know it's a problem. I've no idea what point you're trying to make.
      - amanaplanacanal 5y ago
        Lab animals on a controlled diet are also gaining weight, without taking in excess calories. This would suggest that some environmental factor is causing the weight gain.
        pc86 5y ago
        Do you have a link to the study(ies) showing statistically significant disparate weight gain in otherwise identical lab animals?
        amanaplanacanal 5y ago
        I believe this has been discussed on HN before: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2010.1890 https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2010...

cameronh90 5y ago

https://www.diabetes.org.uk/research/research-round-up/behind-the-headlines/high-fructose-corn-syrup-fuelling-diabetes https://www.diabetes.org.uk/research/research-round-up/behin... At least in the UK, we consume very little HFCS, but we are one of the European nations closest behind the US on the obesity scale. No idea how much HFCS you have in Poland, but you're relatively thin compared to us, so if you have more HFCS.. possibly points the finger at something other than HFCS content. Also it's interesting that pets, lab animals and city wildlife are getting fat globally too on a similar curve to humans.

simonh 5y ago
Poster said these days, so it may be HFCS just hasn't been common in Poland for long enough to have a demographic effect. Personally I think yes HFCS is a problem, but basically it's just massive consumption of surplus calories.
- amanaplanacanal 5y ago
  I still can’t see how that would affect lab animals on a tightly controlled diet.
  - simonh 5y ago
    How what would affect them, massive consumption of excess calories or consumption of HFCS? And affect them how? I'm guessing it makes them fat, but as I said I know it's a problem. I've no idea what point you're trying to make.
    - amanaplanacanal 5y ago
      Lab animals on a controlled diet are also gaining weight, without taking in excess calories. This would suggest that some environmental factor is causing the weight gain.
      - pc86 5y ago
        Do you have a link to the study(ies) showing statistically significant disparate weight gain in otherwise identical lab animals?
        amanaplanacanal 5y ago
        I believe this has been discussed on HN before: https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2010.1890 https://royalsocietypublishing.org/doi/abs/10.1098/rspb.2010...