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They will continue under a new name and description. The success to this day is not remarkable. That software has not stopped criminals like Olaf Scholz and his

by tom899 5y ago

They will continue under a new name and description. The success to this day is not remarkable. That software has not stopped criminals like Olaf Scholz and his buddies, nor has it protect a mayor of a city that was killed in his own house. So, its useless and unethical to think to automate prosecution. Too many false-positives and a bad success rate is not and can not be the goal to break basic rights. The real criminals are not the weed dealers next door and not the dumb neo-fascists, they gather everyday in the parlaments with their shady double income, their wrongdoings and promises broken every day. For what that software has brough revenue, the victims of the flood this summer, would enjoy golden handrails and faucets in their newly built homes.

ChuckNorris89 5y ago
>they gather everyday in the parlaments with their shady double income, their wrongdoings and promises broken every day You can add Ursula v.d.L. to that list. I lost faith in all EU governments to do anything for the people.
- OtomotO 5y ago
  Ultimate power corrupts ultimately... okay, there are always exceptions to that rule, like e.g. Emperor Marcus Aurelius
  - ChuckNorris89 5y ago
    Anyone remember when democracy actually meant that the representatives of the people were chosen among the ordinary people themselves? While now we elect members of the elite to act as our representatives and we're shocked when we find out they actually represent the elite, instead of us, and are entangled in very complex and shady forms of corruption, bribery, tax evasion, insider trading and cronyism? Who could have expected that? /s It's like sheep electing flock leaders among a pack of wolves. When will we stop doing that?
    - juanani 5y ago
- cpach 5y ago
  What did von der Leyen do?
  - insta_anon 5y ago
    Just google "von der Leyen McKinsey"
  - sva_ 5y ago
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen#%22Consultants_affair%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen#%22Consul... Just the tip of the iceberg And what made her unpopular initially: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen#Blocking_internet_child_pornography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen#Blocking_... > [...] creating the necessary infrastructure for extensive censorship of websites deemed illegal by the BKA.
    - rad_gruchalski 5y ago
      > … advocated the initiation of a mandatory blockage of child pornography on the Internet through service providers via a block list maintained by the Federal Criminal Police Office of Germany (BKA), thus creating the necessary infrastructure for extensive censorship of websites deemed illegal by the BKA. For full context.
raverbashing 5y ago
> That software has not stopped criminals like... Oh look, $method didn't stop $crimes where it is not relevant. Not surprising. > The real criminals are not the weed dealers next door and not the dumb neo-fascists, they gather everyday in the parlaments with their shady double income, their wrongdoings and promises broken every day. Weed dealers given the current legislation are commiting a crime. One of the biggest gifts to the lack of prosecution of higher politicians are the infighting between smaller "liberal" parties. And their general naivity Are the people that are opposed to this happy when adversaries have hacked Germany? You're free to protest at the nearest Extinction Even protest and pretend the "green's" anti-nuclear push has nothing to do with the latest events btw "criminals like him (O.S.)"? sounds like either an AfD apologist or Linke supporter.
sdoering 5y ago
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- blumomo 5y ago
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- planb 5y ago
  > What a mess of naive and BS rambling. And that is the top comment on this HN posting right now. (...) > the Greens (who are happily trading with Qatar instead of Russia because Qatar is such a great place for human rights). Very OT, but this is naive rambling, too. They are not "happily" trading with Qatar and even stated that this is the lesser evil right now.
  - sdoering 5y ago
    I agree. That's why I prefaced with: > You might read, that I am cynical regarding politics in my country Anyone who trades with slavers lost his credibility. Everyone trading with warlords as well. Either the Greens are a party of values (I don't have to share those) or they are a party of opportunists. There are shades of grey. I attest to that. But being a pacifist and a humanist I can't accept dealing with either one (Putin as a war mongering statesman or the Qatar government embracing slavery as a Form of doing business). When the Greens agreed for Germany to take part in an unconstitutional war in former Yugoslavia I was aghast. Nowadays I see it more differentiated. There was no way to ensure an UN peace mission. And we could either stand by an watch genocide or act. There are other options now than to throw money at slavers imho. That's why I am being cynical.
- account42 5y ago
  > To my knowledge dealing with drugs is still illegal in Germany. So I hope the police would do something against weed dealers and consumers. That does not follow - there are many things that are illegal put are not expected to be proactively investigated or stopped by the police except when carrying out a court order.
kristiandupont 5y ago
>criminals like Olaf Scholz and his buddies Seriously?
- lavela 5y ago
  It is suspected that he is involved with the Cum-Ex scandal, but to what extent remains unknown. He made very questionable (non-)statements in that regard though.

by tom899 5y ago

ChuckNorris89 5y ago

>they gather everyday in the parlaments with their shady double income, their wrongdoings and promises broken every day You can add Ursula v.d.L. to that list. I lost faith in all EU governments to do anything for the people.

OtomotO 5y ago
Ultimate power corrupts ultimately... okay, there are always exceptions to that rule, like e.g. Emperor Marcus Aurelius
- ChuckNorris89 5y ago
  Anyone remember when democracy actually meant that the representatives of the people were chosen among the ordinary people themselves? While now we elect members of the elite to act as our representatives and we're shocked when we find out they actually represent the elite, instead of us, and are entangled in very complex and shady forms of corruption, bribery, tax evasion, insider trading and cronyism? Who could have expected that? /s It's like sheep electing flock leaders among a pack of wolves. When will we stop doing that?
  - juanani 5y ago
cpach 5y ago
What did von der Leyen do?
- insta_anon 5y ago
  Just google "von der Leyen McKinsey"
- sva_ 5y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen#%22Consultants_affair%22 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen#%22Consul... Just the tip of the iceberg And what made her unpopular initially: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen#Blocking_internet_child_pornography https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ursula_von_der_Leyen#Blocking_... > [...] creating the necessary infrastructure for extensive censorship of websites deemed illegal by the BKA.
  - rad_gruchalski 5y ago
    > … advocated the initiation of a mandatory blockage of child pornography on the Internet through service providers via a block list maintained by the Federal Criminal Police Office of Germany (BKA), thus creating the necessary infrastructure for extensive censorship of websites deemed illegal by the BKA. For full context.

raverbashing 5y ago

> That software has not stopped criminals like... Oh look, $method didn't stop $crimes where it is not relevant. Not surprising. > The real criminals are not the weed dealers next door and not the dumb neo-fascists, they gather everyday in the parlaments with their shady double income, their wrongdoings and promises broken every day. Weed dealers given the current legislation are commiting a crime. One of the biggest gifts to the lack of prosecution of higher politicians are the infighting between smaller "liberal" parties. And their general naivity Are the people that are opposed to this happy when adversaries have hacked Germany? You're free to protest at the nearest Extinction Even protest and pretend the "green's" anti-nuclear push has nothing to do with the latest events btw "criminals like him (O.S.)"? sounds like either an AfD apologist or Linke supporter.

sdoering 5y ago

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blumomo 5y ago
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planb 5y ago
> What a mess of naive and BS rambling. And that is the top comment on this HN posting right now. (...) > the Greens (who are happily trading with Qatar instead of Russia because Qatar is such a great place for human rights). Very OT, but this is naive rambling, too. They are not "happily" trading with Qatar and even stated that this is the lesser evil right now.
- sdoering 5y ago
  I agree. That's why I prefaced with: > You might read, that I am cynical regarding politics in my country Anyone who trades with slavers lost his credibility. Everyone trading with warlords as well. Either the Greens are a party of values (I don't have to share those) or they are a party of opportunists. There are shades of grey. I attest to that. But being a pacifist and a humanist I can't accept dealing with either one (Putin as a war mongering statesman or the Qatar government embracing slavery as a Form of doing business). When the Greens agreed for Germany to take part in an unconstitutional war in former Yugoslavia I was aghast. Nowadays I see it more differentiated. There was no way to ensure an UN peace mission. And we could either stand by an watch genocide or act. There are other options now than to throw money at slavers imho. That's why I am being cynical.
account42 5y ago
> To my knowledge dealing with drugs is still illegal in Germany. So I hope the police would do something against weed dealers and consumers. That does not follow - there are many things that are illegal put are not expected to be proactively investigated or stopped by the police except when carrying out a court order.

kristiandupont 5y ago

>criminals like Olaf Scholz and his buddies Seriously?

lavela 5y ago
It is suspected that he is involved with the Cum-Ex scandal, but to what extent remains unknown. He made very questionable (non-)statements in that regard though.