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The absolute worst is being in an office with several people who are on the same call as you at their own desks. You can neither listen to the call nor the pers

The absolute worst is being in an office with several people who are on the same call as you at their own desks. You can neither listen to the call nor the person near you speaking and you hear everything the say with a 2 second delay.

Tenoke 5y ago
I've had that as the standard practice for meetings at a job so we accommodate remote/other employees but the employer had bought us good noise-canceling headsets so there was no issue when a person near to you will be speaking.
- VBprogrammer 5y ago
  So all the people in the office on calls are wearing noise cancelling headphones so they can take part in meetings with people who may be in the same office. Even with good noise cancelling they have to be permanently muted if not talking to avoid bleed though noise from the environment. All of the other people around then are forced to wear noise cancelling headphones to cancel out the noise of all the people around them talking into their noise cancelling headphones. Remind me again which part of this is better than those people just being at home in their own space?
  - Tenoke 5y ago
    This was mostly just for company-wide meetings (standups and the like). For smaller meetings people would move to a conference room. >Remind me again which part of this is better than those people just being at home in their own space? I didn't argue against remote, simply that having an online meeting which includes people near you doesn't have to be problematic sound-wise.
    - iso1210 5y ago
      It is a massive problem, especially if people don't mute when not speaking, or if people nearby are speaking at the same time (on a different meeting). Nothing to do with noise cancelling headphones
    - themadturk 5y ago
      Conference rooms are a great idea. Unfortunately, while we have multiple conference rooms set up for video meetings, we don't have nearly enough of them.
watwut 5y ago
In our office, this created in-group out-group dynamic within the meeting each time. The in-person people were making jokes to each other and commenting stuff while online people had no idea. So, result is that the same meeting have one group coordinating with muted microphones and other oblivious. Perfect. It did not created some kind of real split (yet), but the potential is super clear and it is pretty much guaranteed to happen.
- VBprogrammer 5y ago
  Ah yes. This is horrible when a big chunk of the meeting are in the same room with several others joining online. Honestly, given the choice an all face to face meeting is the best. However, with any kind of cross location collaboration this quickly becomes impossible (even before WFH). An all online (ideally in their own workspace) meeting is far better than any other mixed mode alternative.

Tenoke 5y ago

I've had that as the standard practice for meetings at a job so we accommodate remote/other employees but the employer had bought us good noise-canceling headsets so there was no issue when a person near to you will be speaking.

VBprogrammer 5y ago
So all the people in the office on calls are wearing noise cancelling headphones so they can take part in meetings with people who may be in the same office. Even with good noise cancelling they have to be permanently muted if not talking to avoid bleed though noise from the environment. All of the other people around then are forced to wear noise cancelling headphones to cancel out the noise of all the people around them talking into their noise cancelling headphones. Remind me again which part of this is better than those people just being at home in their own space?
- Tenoke 5y ago
  This was mostly just for company-wide meetings (standups and the like). For smaller meetings people would move to a conference room. >Remind me again which part of this is better than those people just being at home in their own space? I didn't argue against remote, simply that having an online meeting which includes people near you doesn't have to be problematic sound-wise.
  - iso1210 5y ago
    It is a massive problem, especially if people don't mute when not speaking, or if people nearby are speaking at the same time (on a different meeting). Nothing to do with noise cancelling headphones
  - themadturk 5y ago
    Conference rooms are a great idea. Unfortunately, while we have multiple conference rooms set up for video meetings, we don't have nearly enough of them.

watwut 5y ago

In our office, this created in-group out-group dynamic within the meeting each time. The in-person people were making jokes to each other and commenting stuff while online people had no idea. So, result is that the same meeting have one group coordinating with muted microphones and other oblivious. Perfect. It did not created some kind of real split (yet), but the potential is super clear and it is pretty much guaranteed to happen.

VBprogrammer 5y ago
Ah yes. This is horrible when a big chunk of the meeting are in the same room with several others joining online. Honestly, given the choice an all face to face meeting is the best. However, with any kind of cross location collaboration this quickly becomes impossible (even before WFH). An all online (ideally in their own workspace) meeting is far better than any other mixed mode alternative.