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The United States should be offering permanent residency to practically everyone with a Ph.D.
by ipnon 5y ago
The United States should be offering permanent residency to practically everyone with a Ph.D.
- ronyfadel 5y agoThat would lead to the immediate creation of Ph.D. farms in other countries
- raincom 5y agoAlso more journals will be created:)
- a2tech 5y agoYou say that like they don't already exist
- thaumasiotes 5y agoNot at all. Extra benefits to Ph. D. holders means more Ph. D. mills, regardless of how many already exist.
- phendrenad2 5y agoSo who cares? What's the point?
- gleenn 5y agoThat makes a lot of sense, I just hope that doesn't mean some countries don't start making PhD mills for schools to get around visa caps which seems like an obvious possible side effect
- pbnjay 5y agoUnfortunately this is already the reality… I really hope there’s some other layer of checks on the quality of the degree or something.
- paxys 5y agoForgot all PhDs, it is next to impossible for most students and researchers who get advanced degrees from American universities to get work visas or permanent residency. We get the best talent from all over the world, spend billions on educating them, and then force them to go home.
- mwint 5y agoIs the US spending billions to educate them, or are they spending billions to be educated here?
- N1H1L 5y agoThe US is. NSF plus DOE Office of Science plus NIH is over 50 billion dollars, of which easily a third is going for training internationals PhDs and postdocs.
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- kjeetgill 5y agoI think most PhDs are paid for by the University, not the students. In computer science, and I'd imagine most other stem at least.
- stevenbedrick 5y agoTrue! But in STEM fields the money to pay for PhD students (tuition, stipends, fees, insurance, etc.) almost always ultimately comes from the Federal government in one form or another. Typically, it'll be paid for out of one of their advisor's grants (which usually are from a Federal source), or sometimes from a training grant of some kind (e.g. an NIH T32 or some such, which is also from a Federal source).
- option 5y agoYes, and then we send them back to China, Russia and India despite their attempts to stay and contribute here.
- a2tech 5y agoIf they get a Ph.D. in the US, I agree totally.
- psychlops 5y agoMaybe they could start with medical doctors before they start replacing Ph.D's in the STEM field. Just to be certain that it will work, you know.
- epicureanideal 5y agoExactly. Stem is basically just the remaining non-inheritance-based middle class jobs, and it seems like someone is in a hurry to reduce the wages there. But not wages of doctors, lawyers, and CEOs.
- omegaworks 5y ago> The United States should be offering permanent residency to practically everyone. FTFY
- next_xibalba 5y agoWhy would we want non-STEM PhDs? These are not additive to the U.S. economy or culture. We have a glut of non-STEM PhD holders as it stands.
- throwawaygh 5y agoyou're being downvoted for the second sentence, but the third sentence is indisputably true.
- zamfi 5y agoDepends what you mean by “glut” — if you mean the welfare rolls are full of English PhDs, or the ranks of middle management are gummed up with French Literature PhDs, or the arms of government administration are overrun by political science PhDs, then sure. If you mean most PhDs don’t get faculty jobs, well, then we have a glut of basketball, football, and baseball players too.
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- vondur 5y agoDon’t we have a glut of Ph.D’s here in the US already?
- polski-g 5y agoPhD's from where? From American universities? Or from Kwame's StickShack University in rural Congo?
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- rayiner 5y agoDepends what you want out of immigration. Consider the profile of the people who emigrate. People with PhDs are typically elites back home. Moreover, less than 10% of people in Asia would emigrate if they could: https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-migrate.aspx https://news.gallup.com/poll/245255/750-million-worldwide-mi.... So you’re selecting people who are antisocial enough to leave kith and kin behind for economic opportunities. Not saying this pejoratively—my whole family fits this profile. But people don’t think enough about what sorts of folks we’re really bringing in and how that changes our culture.