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These "precautionary" measures and profiling databases are being developed in most parts of the world. Governments are becoming more and more intrusive in perso

These "precautionary" measures and profiling databases are being developed in most parts of the world. Governments are becoming more and more intrusive in personal lives in the name of security. I really wish someone would buy some land or islands and create a modern country based on libertarian principles, it will be an interesting experiment/startup, although I am not sure if you can start a country just by buying land.

VladRussian 15y ago
Governments consist of the same people like you and me. Your imaginary "modern country based on libertarian principles" would consist of the same people and it will look the same (if not worst) after short time. Problem isn't government. Problem is "we, the people". (my old country was the leader in implementing "modern country based on best principles known to the humanity at the time". The main mistake people do when look back is blaming the principles, saying that these principles were bad and these are different and better. Nope. After all, the best principles of yesterday - communism and fascism - looked very different (with each claiming to be the best), yet both produced the same result, and today we do understand how much they were the same. The best principles of today (libertarianism according to you, Sharia Islam according to several hundred millions of some other people, ...) will be superseded by the best principles of tomorrow. It isn't the principles that kill millions of other peoples and make lives of other people nightmare. It is other people who do it. It isn't modern country that we need, it is the modern people. For example, people who just wouldn't compile the big database, wouldn't run the analysis and wouldn't issue the order to act upon the result of analysis. It is just that simple and just that hard. )
colanderman 15y ago
I am not sure if you can start a country just by buying land. The Palestinians tried this recently. Heck, they didn't even need to buy the land; they already owned it. Hasn't gone too well for them yet.

VladRussian 15y ago

Governments consist of the same people like you and me. Your imaginary "modern country based on libertarian principles" would consist of the same people and it will look the same (if not worst) after short time. Problem isn't government. Problem is "we, the people". (my old country was the leader in implementing "modern country based on best principles known to the humanity at the time". The main mistake people do when look back is blaming the principles, saying that these principles were bad and these are different and better. Nope. After all, the best principles of yesterday - communism and fascism - looked very different (with each claiming to be the best), yet both produced the same result, and today we do understand how much they were the same. The best principles of today (libertarianism according to you, Sharia Islam according to several hundred millions of some other people, ...) will be superseded by the best principles of tomorrow. It isn't the principles that kill millions of other peoples and make lives of other people nightmare. It is other people who do it. It isn't modern country that we need, it is the modern people. For example, people who just wouldn't compile the big database, wouldn't run the analysis and wouldn't issue the order to act upon the result of analysis. It is just that simple and just that hard. )

colanderman 15y ago

I am not sure if you can start a country just by buying land. The Palestinians tried this recently. Heck, they didn't even need to buy the land; they already owned it. Hasn't gone too well for them yet.