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All of which makes me wonder, and this being HN, wouldn’t it make so much sense of law enforcement agencies start signing these kind of requests with verifiable

All of which makes me wonder, and this being HN, wouldn’t it make so much sense of law enforcement agencies start signing these kind of requests with verifiable public keys? It seems like such a trivial problem from a technology point of view, it makes me believe it’s mostly an organizational problem.

mcbutterbunz 5y ago
I agree that it does seem like a trivial problem that is mostly organizational. There are nearly 18,000 police departments in the US. Standardizing anything across a subset these and getting approval from the judicial system just seems like a nightmare. This seems like one of those issues that is solved only when someone is murdered and a law is written after their name.
ozfive 5y ago
Let's add Blockchain to this so warrants are verifiable on a private Blockchain.
- ozfive 5y ago
  /s
istjohn 5y ago
At the very bottom of the article: 8<-------------------------------------------- The current situation with fraudulent EDRs illustrates the dangers of relying solely on email to process legal requests for highly sensitive subscriber data. In July 2021, a bipartisan group of U.S. senators introduced new legislation to combat the growing use of counterfeit court orders by scammers and criminals. The bill calls for funding for state and tribal courts to adopt widely available digital signature technology that meets standards developed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology. “Forged court orders, usually involving copy-and-pasted signatures of judges, have been used to authorize illegal wiretaps and fraudulently take down legitimate reviews and websites by those seeking to conceal negative information and past crimes,” the lawmakers said in a statement introducing their bill. The Digital Authenticity for Court Orders Act would require federal, state and tribal courts to use a digital signature for orders authorizing surveillance, domain seizures and removal of online content. 8<--------------------------------------------
- stingraycharles 5y ago
  I should have done a better job at reading the article, thanks for this.
verve_rat 5y ago
From the end of the article: The current situation with fraudulent EDRs illustrates the dangers of relying solely on email to process legal requests for highly sensitive subscriber data. In July 2021, a bipartisan group of U.S. senators introduced new legislation to combat the growing use of counterfeit court orders by scammers and criminals. The bill calls for funding for state and tribal courts to adopt widely available digital signature technology that meets standards developed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology.

mcbutterbunz 5y ago

I agree that it does seem like a trivial problem that is mostly organizational. There are nearly 18,000 police departments in the US. Standardizing anything across a subset these and getting approval from the judicial system just seems like a nightmare. This seems like one of those issues that is solved only when someone is murdered and a law is written after their name.

ozfive 5y ago

Let's add Blockchain to this so warrants are verifiable on a private Blockchain.

ozfive 5y ago
/s

istjohn 5y ago

At the very bottom of the article: 8<-------------------------------------------- The current situation with fraudulent EDRs illustrates the dangers of relying solely on email to process legal requests for highly sensitive subscriber data. In July 2021, a bipartisan group of U.S. senators introduced new legislation to combat the growing use of counterfeit court orders by scammers and criminals. The bill calls for funding for state and tribal courts to adopt widely available digital signature technology that meets standards developed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology. “Forged court orders, usually involving copy-and-pasted signatures of judges, have been used to authorize illegal wiretaps and fraudulently take down legitimate reviews and websites by those seeking to conceal negative information and past crimes,” the lawmakers said in a statement introducing their bill. The Digital Authenticity for Court Orders Act would require federal, state and tribal courts to use a digital signature for orders authorizing surveillance, domain seizures and removal of online content. 8<--------------------------------------------

stingraycharles 5y ago
I should have done a better job at reading the article, thanks for this.

verve_rat 5y ago

From the end of the article: The current situation with fraudulent EDRs illustrates the dangers of relying solely on email to process legal requests for highly sensitive subscriber data. In July 2021, a bipartisan group of U.S. senators introduced new legislation to combat the growing use of counterfeit court orders by scammers and criminals. The bill calls for funding for state and tribal courts to adopt widely available digital signature technology that meets standards developed by the National Institute of Standards and Technology.