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> Why should MS in the US somehow respond to a request from police department in Cuxhafen in Germany? If a non-US company does business in the US, most people

> Why should MS in the US somehow respond to a request from police department in Cuxhafen in Germany? If a non-US company does business in the US, most people would expect the business to also answer to US law enforcement. You can't just operate in a business and not follow the law of that country. Same applies the other way around, you do business as a US company in Germany, you better follow German law. Hence companies tend to have HQ in one country, and then subsidiaries in other countries, who know how the local market and laws work.

verve_rat 5y ago
That's the point though. MS US headquarters is not responding to these requests. MS {local country} branch is responding. And I'm sure the people that work in country X know how to contact country X's police. This is really a non issue being blown up in to some unsolvable conundrum by people in this conversation that want to find problems in using a phone book.
- Terry_Roll 5y ago
  Are you sure? So much phishing potential in the links below. I know every GP surgery in the UK that uses a windows server is accessible online and Shodan can give away so much information, lets hope people like Cisco and netgear dont have any zero days. https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/02/microsoft-online-services-global-criminal-compliance-handbook.pdf https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/02/micro... https://cyberlaw.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/microsoft-spy.pdf https://cyberlaw.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/microsoft... https://info.publicintelligence.net/MSN-Compliance.pdf https://info.publicintelligence.net/MSN-Compliance.pdf https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/give-and-get-details-of-an-account-for-a-police/cb276407-5cf1-4687-9c2d-e510cddab006 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/gi... https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/hotmail-law-enforcement-needs-contact-info-please/2b42cf7a-e716-40ba-9117-53c089f321b0 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/ho... https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/law-enforcement-requests-report https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/law... https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/us-national-security-orders-report https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/us-... https://leportal.microsoft.com/home https://leportal.microsoft.com/home https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/pm/policies.aspx https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/pm/policies... https://undisputedlegal.com/how-to-serve-legal-papers-on-microsoft-corporation/ https://undisputedlegal.com/how-to-serve-legal-papers-on-mic... https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/843015-nep-uk-police-modern-work-case-study-government-microsoft-365 https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/843015-nep-uk-po... https://www.transformation.police.uk/ https://www.transformation.police.uk/ https://www.transformation.police.uk/what-we-do/national-management-centre https://www.transformation.police.uk/what-we-do/national-man... https://www.transformation.police.uk/what-we-do/identity-access-management https://www.transformation.police.uk/what-we-do/identity-acc... https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252493673/UK-police-unlawfully-processing-over-a-million-peoples-data-on-Microsoft-365 https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252493673/UK-police-unla... RING.com LEO portal support page. https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360031595491-How-Public-Safety-Agencies-Use-Neighbors https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360031595491-How-... https://help.publicsafety.ring.com/hc/en-us https://help.publicsafety.ring.com/hc/en-us Facebook LEO portal https://www.facebook.com/records/login/ https://www.facebook.com/records/login/ Yahoo https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/social_network/yahoo_sn_leg-doj.pdf https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/social_network/yahoo_sn_l...

verve_rat 5y ago

That's the point though. MS US headquarters is not responding to these requests. MS {local country} branch is responding. And I'm sure the people that work in country X know how to contact country X's police. This is really a non issue being blown up in to some unsolvable conundrum by people in this conversation that want to find problems in using a phone book.

Terry_Roll 5y ago
Are you sure? So much phishing potential in the links below. I know every GP surgery in the UK that uses a windows server is accessible online and Shodan can give away so much information, lets hope people like Cisco and netgear dont have any zero days. https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/02/microsoft-online-services-global-criminal-compliance-handbook.pdf https://www.wired.com/images_blogs/threatlevel/2010/02/micro... https://cyberlaw.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/microsoft-spy.pdf https://cyberlaw.org.uk/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/microsoft... https://info.publicintelligence.net/MSN-Compliance.pdf https://info.publicintelligence.net/MSN-Compliance.pdf https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/give-and-get-details-of-an-account-for-a-police/cb276407-5cf1-4687-9c2d-e510cddab006 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/gi... https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/hotmail-law-enforcement-needs-contact-info-please/2b42cf7a-e716-40ba-9117-53c089f321b0 https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/outlook_com/forum/all/ho... https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/law-enforcement-requests-report https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/law... https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/us-national-security-orders-report https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/corporate-responsibility/us-... https://leportal.microsoft.com/home https://leportal.microsoft.com/home https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/pm/policies.aspx https://sendersupport.olc.protection.outlook.com/pm/policies... https://undisputedlegal.com/how-to-serve-legal-papers-on-microsoft-corporation/ https://undisputedlegal.com/how-to-serve-legal-papers-on-mic... https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/843015-nep-uk-police-modern-work-case-study-government-microsoft-365 https://customers.microsoft.com/en-us/story/843015-nep-uk-po... https://www.transformation.police.uk/ https://www.transformation.police.uk/ https://www.transformation.police.uk/what-we-do/national-management-centre https://www.transformation.police.uk/what-we-do/national-man... https://www.transformation.police.uk/what-we-do/identity-access-management https://www.transformation.police.uk/what-we-do/identity-acc... https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252493673/UK-police-unlawfully-processing-over-a-million-peoples-data-on-Microsoft-365 https://www.computerweekly.com/news/252493673/UK-police-unla... RING.com LEO portal support page. https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360031595491-How-Public-Safety-Agencies-Use-Neighbors https://support.ring.com/hc/en-us/articles/360031595491-How-... https://help.publicsafety.ring.com/hc/en-us https://help.publicsafety.ring.com/hc/en-us Facebook LEO portal https://www.facebook.com/records/login/ https://www.facebook.com/records/login/ Yahoo https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/social_network/yahoo_sn_leg-doj.pdf https://www.eff.org/files/filenode/social_network/yahoo_sn_l...