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Probably take 5 minutes to find an example order online from most judges in the country. Make a fake document to look just like it saying whatever you want. Sen
by 300bps 5y ago
Probably take 5 minutes to find an example order online from most judges in the country. Make a fake document to look just like it saying whatever you want. Send it in - how do they authenticate it?
- willcipriano 5y agoSame way they validate them now. Call up the court and ask. The clerk will be happy to help you. If you can fake a district court into existence we've got bigger problems.
- KennyBlanken 5y agoSlim to no chance that a US telecom actually bothers to call up the court and verify an order with the clerk except for orders that are unusual (say: overly broad in scope, or targeting a recognizable name such as a politician or celebrity). My guess is that at best they look at the fax caller ID and/or email headers and that's that. Their position is likely "it looked like it came from a cop, not our problem if the cop is forging court orders."
- mmazing 5y agoSo punish them for not verifying? We're already very familiar with the concept that ignorance of the law isn't a valid reason for violating the law. What's wrong with that in this scenario?
- heavyset_go 5y agoThen make it their problem with regulators or legislation. KYC is law of the land when dealing with private individuals, same logic should apply to verifying court orders or law enforcement requests.
- waffle_ss 5y agoJudges can be phoned up at late hours to e-sign time-sensitive warrants. Hours that court clerks will not be sitting at their desk answering calls or emails. They also don't work weekends.