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I don't think so, America has a massive amount of political unrest. Both parties seem to adore violence on their political enemies these days, and most American

I don't think so, America has a massive amount of political unrest. Both parties seem to adore violence on their political enemies these days, and most Americans think civil war is on the way.

Forgeties79 5y ago
>most Americans think civil war is on the way Source? Personally, if we survived the 60’s/70’s, I think we can survive this. They literally murdered college students in front of the world. I’m also not sure how any of this translates into Stalin-era gulags. People throw that term around too lightly, like “nazi.” If you’ve actually studied any Russian/Soviet history you should know how insane those were, even for an era with rampant fascism.
- hackerfromthefu 5y ago
  Absolutely correct. It seems in vogue to use words without understanding the actual meanings. Most people haven't read history and speak, loudly, of that which they don't know.
- thechao 5y ago
  Right; I think at worst we're managing to rewind ourselves to the `90s, at this point. I think a lot of people don't remember how much social change there was starting in the early `00s through the early `10s. I'm not pleased with the retrogression; I think Project Red Map has really uncovered a large scale hack/flaw in the US electorate that needs to be fixed quickly, but the political situation is certainly nothing like the `60s/`70s. My parents were activists in the 60s, and my grandparents were activists in the 20s & 30s. My parents mostly feared being beaten, with a background fear of being shot at. My grandparents feared being disappeared along with retribution to their extended family, friends, and neighborhoods.
  - Forgeties79 5y ago
    Re: your grandparents, I really don't think people appreciate how easy it was to cross the government with your speech - especially in wartime - prior to late 20th century.
- stuckinhell 5y ago
  https://thehill.com/homenews/news/467143-voters-believe-us-two-thirds-of-the-way-to-edge-of-a-civil-war-poll/ https://thehill.com/homenews/news/467143-voters-believe-us-t... The advent of increased population, social media, technology, and major american hyper polarization make the current times very different than the 60s/70s.
pstuart 5y ago
> Both parties seem to adore violence on their political enemies these days Let's stop with the both sides are the same bit, m'kay? Plenty to criticize on the left but please stick to facts.
- pstuart 5y ago
  I welcome valid examples that prove me wrong. The concern is legitimate, not hyperbole. And as far as Civil War goes, I'd posit that it's already begun.
  - Forgeties79 5y ago
    Well I think many of welcome valid sources showing that “most Americans think civil war is on the way.” If a civil war has “already begun,” I guess I live somewhere else, because I don’t hear any gun shots. Frankly it feels a lot calmer around here than it did a year or two ago.
    - pstuart 5y ago
      Just as we're no longer using muskets and cavalry, the method of warfare has changed in other ways. Perhaps meld in aspects of The Cold War as well. A key change this time is not to split apart, but to simply grab all the marbles and declare the game to be over. I wish I could be sanguine about this and would love to be proven wrong, but it's looking grim.

I don't think so, America has a massive amount of political unrest. Both parties seem to adore violence on their political enemies these days, and most Americans think civil war is on the way.

Forgeties79 5y ago

>most Americans think civil war is on the way Source? Personally, if we survived the 60’s/70’s, I think we can survive this. They literally murdered college students in front of the world. I’m also not sure how any of this translates into Stalin-era gulags. People throw that term around too lightly, like “nazi.” If you’ve actually studied any Russian/Soviet history you should know how insane those were, even for an era with rampant fascism.

hackerfromthefu 5y ago
Absolutely correct. It seems in vogue to use words without understanding the actual meanings. Most people haven't read history and speak, loudly, of that which they don't know.
thechao 5y ago
Right; I think at worst we're managing to rewind ourselves to the `90s, at this point. I think a lot of people don't remember how much social change there was starting in the early `00s through the early `10s. I'm not pleased with the retrogression; I think Project Red Map has really uncovered a large scale hack/flaw in the US electorate that needs to be fixed quickly, but the political situation is certainly nothing like the `60s/`70s. My parents were activists in the 60s, and my grandparents were activists in the 20s & 30s. My parents mostly feared being beaten, with a background fear of being shot at. My grandparents feared being disappeared along with retribution to their extended family, friends, and neighborhoods.
- Forgeties79 5y ago
  Re: your grandparents, I really don't think people appreciate how easy it was to cross the government with your speech - especially in wartime - prior to late 20th century.
stuckinhell 5y ago
https://thehill.com/homenews/news/467143-voters-believe-us-two-thirds-of-the-way-to-edge-of-a-civil-war-poll/ https://thehill.com/homenews/news/467143-voters-believe-us-t... The advent of increased population, social media, technology, and major american hyper polarization make the current times very different than the 60s/70s.

pstuart 5y ago

> Both parties seem to adore violence on their political enemies these days Let's stop with the both sides are the same bit, m'kay? Plenty to criticize on the left but please stick to facts.

pstuart 5y ago
I welcome valid examples that prove me wrong. The concern is legitimate, not hyperbole. And as far as Civil War goes, I'd posit that it's already begun.
- Forgeties79 5y ago
  Well I think many of welcome valid sources showing that “most Americans think civil war is on the way.” If a civil war has “already begun,” I guess I live somewhere else, because I don’t hear any gun shots. Frankly it feels a lot calmer around here than it did a year or two ago.
  - pstuart 5y ago
    Just as we're no longer using muskets and cavalry, the method of warfare has changed in other ways. Perhaps meld in aspects of The Cold War as well. A key change this time is not to split apart, but to simply grab all the marbles and declare the game to be over. I wish I could be sanguine about this and would love to be proven wrong, but it's looking grim.