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I wonder if an 'Emergency Data Request' to Amazon by a law enforcement organization has to go through all the hoop jumping described here: https://news.ycombin

I wonder if an 'Emergency Data Request' to Amazon by a law enforcement organization has to go through all the hoop jumping described here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30820424 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=30820424 relevant comment: "I had to click through more than 100 links to download all the data, how can this be acceptable? Specially coming from Amazon. How hard is it for them to create an archive with all the data? This is ridiculous, I can't imagine how was the meeting when they decided to produce purposefully such garbage UX." This would indicate that Amazon has some kind of internal interface for these Emergency Data Requests for law enforcement that just dumps all the data to them immediately without all those barriers to access. Makes one wonder why that's not also available to Amazon users? Also, are these Emergency Data Requests ever subjected to post-mortem court review of any kind? Is anyone in law enforcement ever subjected to discipline for bogus requests?

CaptainNegative 5y ago
Just a guess, but perhaps Amazon responds to EDRs only with potentially meaningful data rather than how many minutes into your third viewing of The Simpsons S16E4 you paused the video last, how often you've clicked on but never carried through with that Roomba purchase on woot.com, or the full history of Amazon App Store promotions you took part in back in 2015 to get free coins added to your wallet that you've completely forgotten about.
heavyset_go 5y ago
> This would indicate that Amazon has some kind of internal interface for these Emergency Data Requests for law enforcement that just dumps all the data to them immediately without all those barriers to access. If they scratch the government's back, chances are the government will scratch Amazon's back, too. > Makes one wonder why that's not also available to Amazon users? There's a benefit to giving law enforcement whatever they want, but little to no benefit to giving users the freedom to move their data out of Amazon's walled garden. Amazon is the same company that is creating partnerships with law enforcement agencies all over the country with their Ring products and surveillance network[1][2]. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/31/22258856/amazon-ring-partners-police-fire-security-privacy-cameras https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/31/22258856/amazon-ring-part... [2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/06/amazon-ring-must-end-its-dangerous-partnerships-police https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/06/amazon-ring-must-end-i...

CaptainNegative 5y ago

Just a guess, but perhaps Amazon responds to EDRs only with potentially meaningful data rather than how many minutes into your third viewing of The Simpsons S16E4 you paused the video last, how often you've clicked on but never carried through with that Roomba purchase on woot.com, or the full history of Amazon App Store promotions you took part in back in 2015 to get free coins added to your wallet that you've completely forgotten about.

heavyset_go 5y ago

> This would indicate that Amazon has some kind of internal interface for these Emergency Data Requests for law enforcement that just dumps all the data to them immediately without all those barriers to access. If they scratch the government's back, chances are the government will scratch Amazon's back, too. > Makes one wonder why that's not also available to Amazon users? There's a benefit to giving law enforcement whatever they want, but little to no benefit to giving users the freedom to move their data out of Amazon's walled garden. Amazon is the same company that is creating partnerships with law enforcement agencies all over the country with their Ring products and surveillance network[1][2]. [1] https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/31/22258856/amazon-ring-partners-police-fire-security-privacy-cameras https://www.theverge.com/2021/1/31/22258856/amazon-ring-part... [2] https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/06/amazon-ring-must-end-its-dangerous-partnerships-police https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/06/amazon-ring-must-end-i...