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> Ruralia and Suburbia are not financially or environmentally sustainable, not as modern society. That's fine, but cities like New York are not sustainable eit
by tharne 5y ago
> Ruralia and Suburbia are not financially or environmentally sustainable, not as modern society.
That's fine, but cities like New York are not sustainable either. Ditto for commercial air travel, so the entire conversation is unproductive and pointless. It just degenerates into wealthy urbanites saying something along the lines of "You terrible suburb dwellers need to give up your unsustainable lifestyle and embrace our unsustainable lifestyle instead".
I'll take all of this more seriously when I start seeing environmentalists swear off things like commercial flight or eating food and wine that's been shipped halfway around the world. Until then, I'll enjoy my suburb and my car and my lawn with the picket fence.
- thatfrenchguy 5y ago> That's fine, but cities like New York are not sustainable either CO2 emissions for households living in cities are noticeably lower (just goggle it). > I'll take all of this more seriously when I start seeing environmentalists swear off things like commercial flight or eating food and wine that's been shipped halfway around the world This is pure whataboutism and you know it. Just look at the co2 emissions of your lifestyle versus those of wine shipped from across the world.