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I Am Well Versed in Active Shooter Training. What About First Aid?

mikece 5y ago
This is a good point. The US Army increased it's level of first-aid training to soldiers during the 90s and the result is that during the GWOT the percentage of soldiers who die from battlefield injuries has dropped to the lowest of any conflict on record. Whether it's training on how to apply a tourniquet or how to initially treat a sucking chest wound (eg: being shot) the average soldier today has more medical training than a lot of WW2 combat medics had. Bringing this back to the work place: it's far more likely that the average office worker will come across an opportunity to use medical/first aid training than whatever passes as active shooter training. Moreover, if I am working in an office where I know my coworkers have a general idea how to apply a chest dressing or stop bleeding and generally stabilize injuries until EMTs arrive I'll be more likely to charge an active shooter to try to end the threat knowing that even if I'm hit in the process my chances for survival are good.
ruined 5y ago
a stop-the-bleed kit is about a hundred bucks, buy a few. keep one in your home, one in your car, and a small one in your personal bag. there are groups in every city that offer free training, oriented mainly towards activists and firearms hobbyists, but it's available. the training is useful for many kinds of bleeding, not just gunshot wounds.
- giardini 5y ago
  Are "bleed kits" worth the cost? You'll likely never need one and it will be lost/defunct after a few years (due to heat & moisture). Kit or no, you need a first aid class and a first aid kit. Rather than another expenditure and one more gadget to keep track of, stay with the basics. Otherwise people will buy a "bleed kit" on Amazon and toss it in the trunk, thinking that they're fully prepared for an automobile accident or such. When an accident does occur, they may or may not remember the kit, take it out and read the instructions manual. Meanwhile someone will die b/c the kit owner wasn't educated enough to "apply pressure to the wound." [Cue spammers citing questionable personal anecdotes where a "bleed kit" in a car trunk saved them from amputation/death.]
  - ruined 5y ago
    do you argue against seat belts and epi pens the same way?
maxehmookau 5y ago
This whole concept is just bizarre to me as a Brit. I get the US is a different country with its own culture around firearm ownership but how on earth did widespread "active shooter training" become a thing and society went along with it? At least the author recognises this in the first sentence, but it still blows my mind.
- gadders 5y ago
  It's not like we don't have violence in the UK. We don't have active shooters but we have more than a few active stabbers and active bombers.
  - maxehmookau 5y ago
    Let's crunch the numbers: - In the year ending March 2021 there were 41,000 instances of recorded knife crime in the UK. - 224 deaths as a result of a stabbing in the same period. - Since 1970 there have been 3,395 deaths (total) from any form of terrorism in the UK. Source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/ https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04... In the US: - 19,384 deaths as a result of a shooting. (2020) Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm Sure, we have violence, but it's on a whole different level.
    - gadders 5y ago
      Where did I say it was the same level? I just said the nature of the threat is different.
  - iso1210 5y ago
    I went to school when Irish bombers will blowing up my home town and killing kids. I remember having a fire drill once at school which might have doubled as a bomb-threat drill. Far more danger from the car drivers outside the front gates.
- jacobr1 5y ago
  I think because it is a tangible thing one can do. Regardless of opinions on constitutionality of firearms ownership, nobody wants to see attacks and shoots. But what can be done? Changing the laws is not likely because of both disagreement and gridlock, though political activity is one avenue one can take with hope for longer term impact. Policing or mental health policy and programs in the in the local communities also might have some impact, but again most individuals won't be able to make an impact (not that they couldn't but won't in practice without a high degree of engagement). But hosting a class? That is something everyone organization has full autonomy to successfully accomplish. It is within the organizational and budgetary resources of small companies, big ones, churches, schools, local community centers, etc. Think about the duck and cover training for surviving a nuclear blast. You might not be able to do much as the average individual to avoid nuclear confrontation, but you can mitigate it on the margin with some tangible steps.
tobyjsullivan 5y ago
> By the time we enter the corporate world we are accustomed to this training. This is the training we receive in school. It starts in elementary school and nearly every school teaches some form of active shooter training What. The. Fruit. Where is this normal??? I have never once received active shooter training. It’s been a few years since I was in grade school (class of 2004, baby!) and two years since I worked in an office but, still, this sounds extremely foreign. I’ve lived and worked in Canada and Australia but not the US. Is this actually normal in the US? Forget first-aid kits. How could anyone be okay with this being normal?
- boredumb 5y ago
  There were earthquake drills, shooting drills, "lock down" drills and bomb threat drills throughout school. Basically all of them consisted of "Sit under your desk and play thumb wars quietly with classmates and listen to your teacher or the classroom speakers instructions"
- bogota 5y ago
  Have you just not been watching the news for the last 15 years?
- sp332 5y ago
  This is very normal in the US. Many schools prevented classrooms from opening the doors to improve ventilation during covid, because it would violate their policy about keeping the doors shut in case there was a shooting. And yeah we have a relatively high amount of shootings, but they are still rare in an absolute sense. A lot of this is driven by an industry that sells bulletproof desks and junk, and needs to keep people afraid because it's profitable. Edit: I should also point out that shifting responsibility for active shooter response to the individual, the victim, is a way to avoid discussions about actual policy change or to hold people with real power accountable at all.
  - zzzeek 5y ago
    > And yeah we have a relatively high amount of shootings, but they are still rare in an absolute sense. A lot of this is driven by an industry that sells bulletproof desks and junk, and needs to keep people afraid because it's profitable. Let me correct that for you: all of this is driven by a gun industry that sells actual guns and bullets and has for decades lobbied gun safety laws practically out of existence in the US, and needs to keep gun owners afraid of their "second amendment rights" being taken away because it's profitable.
happytoexplain 5y ago
There are a couple comments confounded by the normalization of active shooter training, but (as is often the case with these comments), I can't tell from the wording if they disagree with the practice or are merely upset (understandably) that such a thing is even necessary. I guess the answer in both cases is the same, though: An unfortunate reality is still a reality.
- OscarCunningham 5y ago
  It seems like it would increase the number of shootings by putting the idea in children's heads.
  - err4nt 5y ago
    And/or how to predict the reaction and behaviour of people in an event like that.
- dangle1 5y ago
  Some of the "anti-training" sentiment comes from concern that the drills themselves can be very traumatic for children who are already trying to understand the real shootings that they hear about. It's very hard to measure/analyze the risk from drills vs. the risk from no drills, especially if the rate of shootings is changing over time.
- rob74 5y ago
  I am upset that this is necessary, and even more upset that everybody accepts this "status quo" as normal and the (usually very timid) calls to do something about it only lead to more guns being sold.
- causi 5y ago
  It isn't. The number of children that die in school shootings is an average of 35 per year. That is of course horrible, but in comparison to other sources of childhood death it's tiny. 150 a year die of food allergies. Eight are killed by lightning every year. Does lightning get 1/4 as much attention as school shootings despite causing 1/4 as many deaths? Even comparing, very specifically, intentional firearm homicide of children outside of school to school shooting deaths shows that, per hour, schools are fantastically safer than when kids aren't at school. The US has a gun violence problem but school shootings are just a barely-audible echo of it.
mhb 5y ago
I recently watched this video about assembling a first aid kit for a shop (https://youtu.be/A0EmfREhgRw https://youtu.be/A0EmfREhgRw) and I bought many of the suggested items. Some of the links no longer worked - here is what I bought: Israeli Bandage - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0166NR1OM https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0166NR1OM Super Glue - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ESG4TK8 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ESG4TK8 Alcohol wipes - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O9XEDES https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O9XEDES Burn cream - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0084GX1JO https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0084GX1JO Eye Wash Cups - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072FH7V5H https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072FH7V5H Non-Adherent Pads - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017JT0MP2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017JT0MP2 First Aid Cabinet - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA085W0 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA085W0 Elastic Stretch Gauze Rolls - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K2FL98H https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K2FL98H First Aid Tape - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TSJ8XC https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TSJ8XC Tourniquet - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Outdoor-Portable-Tourniquet-First-Aid-Quick-Slow-Release-Buckle-Medical-Military-Tactical-Emergency-Tourniquet-Strap-One-Hand/862277233 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Outdoor-Portable-Tourniquet-First... Scissors - https://www.walmart.com/ip/PRE-51-5-5-BANDAGE-SCISSOR/22647467 https://www.walmart.com/ip/PRE-51-5-5-BANDAGE-SCISSOR/226474... Wound seal - https://www.walmart.com/ip/WoundSeal-Powder-4-Each/347523589 https://www.walmart.com/ip/WoundSeal-Powder-4-Each/347523589 Clotting gauze - https://www.walmart.com/ip/QuikClot-Advanced-Clotting-Gauze-3-x-24-in/966648672 https://www.walmart.com/ip/QuikClot-Advanced-Clotting-Gauze-... Liquid bandage spray - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nexcare-No-Sting-Liquid-Bandage-Spray-0-61-fl-oz-1-Pack/10890126 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nexcare-No-Sting-Liquid-Bandage-S...
hkchad 5y ago
There are First Aid courses offered everywhere that cover CPR, AED and even how to provide oxygen. I take them every 2 years to stay fresh and get some sudo practice. Nothings stopping you from doing this on your own!
mbrd 5y ago
I grew up in the UK so never had anything other than fire drills, but I’m in the US now it’s pretty sad when your kindergartner tells you they had to pretend there was a lion in the corridor and the teacher locked the door and asked them to hide in the corner of the classroom.
brightball 5y ago
Totally agreed. I've long believed that first aid should be taught in school at every level and that every graduating high school student should come out first aid and CPR certified. IMO it just makes sense to create a better society all around. Personal Finance + First Aid/CPR should be an expectation of everybody that graduates high school in the US but for some reason, neither are.
GlenTheMachine 5y ago
Without identifying my workspace, I will relate the following: - We are required to complete an active shooter training course annually - No training in first aid is offered, even after employees requested it - We are forbidden from purchasing first aid kits using company money, the reason being that none of us is certified in first aid
- aerostable_slug 5y ago
  That stinks. I used to work for a major public utility, and it was the complete opposite. Mandatory drills for all sorts of contingencies, fully stocked disaster cabinets on every floor, influenza vaccines offered onsite for free, heck they even had a pandemic ops center where they could lock in a bunch of healthy people to keep the lights on while everyone else has the plague. We made videos on how to lift things without getting hurt — and this was the infosec group! The company even did stuff like give out small free flashlights, At the time it was a little tiresome, but after the fact I appreciate the time and resources spent on it.
nimbius 5y ago
the articles author seems to conflate the context and purpose of either. Active shooter "training" is designed solely for self-preservation in an emergency situation and shouldnt be combined with first-aid as it by definition means youre at imminent risk of death or serious bodily harm. Its the same reason the emergency protocol for a gas alarm is to evacuate. you cant help people when youre dead. that having been said check out your local YMCA or library for first aid/red cross events that will teach you CPR/AED/O2 administration as well as the heimlich maneuver and how to properly use a fire extinguisher. your facility safety coordinator (if your company is large enough) should be hosting volunteer trainings for the AED devices, but if not your local fire department likely hosts a fire safety event that includes the devices as part of CPR training. get into the habit of identifying exit signs and make it routine to use the stairs at work so you can guide others to safety in a fire. locate extinguishers and familiarize yourself with emergency numbers at your office but be prepared to take down information to relay to responders such as the nature of the event, victims age, any medications they consume as well as any environmental hazard that exists.
kerblang 5y ago
I've worked in the USA at numerous companies for 30 years and never was sent to "active shooter training". I have had anti-harassment training, suspicious person training, security training, safety training, and then some but not active shooter, ever. Not that it would bother me, but then again what exactly is there to learn? "Duck"?
mgarfias 5y ago
More than first aid, you need trauma classes. Stop the bleed, things like that. Then you need eq. Does your org have TQs? Israeli bandages? Celox? Rolls of gauze to pack wounds with? If things get awful, you need all those things. Personally, I carry a TQ, and have taken trauma classes.

This is a good point. The US Army increased it's level of first-aid training to soldiers during the 90s and the result is that during the GWOT the percentage of soldiers who die from battlefield injuries has dropped to the lowest of any conflict on record. Whether it's training on how to apply a tourniquet or how to initially treat a sucking chest wound (eg: being shot) the average soldier today has more medical training than a lot of WW2 combat medics had. Bringing this back to the work place: it's far more likely that the average office worker will come across an opportunity to use medical/first aid training than whatever passes as active shooter training. Moreover, if I am working in an office where I know my coworkers have a general idea how to apply a chest dressing or stop bleeding and generally stabilize injuries until EMTs arrive I'll be more likely to charge an active shooter to try to end the threat knowing that even if I'm hit in the process my chances for survival are good.

ruined 5y ago

a stop-the-bleed kit is about a hundred bucks, buy a few. keep one in your home, one in your car, and a small one in your personal bag. there are groups in every city that offer free training, oriented mainly towards activists and firearms hobbyists, but it's available. the training is useful for many kinds of bleeding, not just gunshot wounds.

giardini 5y ago
Are "bleed kits" worth the cost? You'll likely never need one and it will be lost/defunct after a few years (due to heat & moisture). Kit or no, you need a first aid class and a first aid kit. Rather than another expenditure and one more gadget to keep track of, stay with the basics. Otherwise people will buy a "bleed kit" on Amazon and toss it in the trunk, thinking that they're fully prepared for an automobile accident or such. When an accident does occur, they may or may not remember the kit, take it out and read the instructions manual. Meanwhile someone will die b/c the kit owner wasn't educated enough to "apply pressure to the wound." [Cue spammers citing questionable personal anecdotes where a "bleed kit" in a car trunk saved them from amputation/death.]
- ruined 5y ago
  do you argue against seat belts and epi pens the same way?

maxehmookau 5y ago

This whole concept is just bizarre to me as a Brit. I get the US is a different country with its own culture around firearm ownership but how on earth did widespread "active shooter training" become a thing and society went along with it? At least the author recognises this in the first sentence, but it still blows my mind.

gadders 5y ago
It's not like we don't have violence in the UK. We don't have active shooters but we have more than a few active stabbers and active bombers.
- maxehmookau 5y ago
  Let's crunch the numbers: - In the year ending March 2021 there were 41,000 instances of recorded knife crime in the UK. - 224 deaths as a result of a stabbing in the same period. - Since 1970 there have been 3,395 deaths (total) from any form of terrorism in the UK. Source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04304/ https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/research-briefings/sn04... In the US: - 19,384 deaths as a result of a shooting. (2020) Source: https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/fastats/homicide.htm Sure, we have violence, but it's on a whole different level.
  - gadders 5y ago
    Where did I say it was the same level? I just said the nature of the threat is different.
- iso1210 5y ago
  I went to school when Irish bombers will blowing up my home town and killing kids. I remember having a fire drill once at school which might have doubled as a bomb-threat drill. Far more danger from the car drivers outside the front gates.
jacobr1 5y ago
I think because it is a tangible thing one can do. Regardless of opinions on constitutionality of firearms ownership, nobody wants to see attacks and shoots. But what can be done? Changing the laws is not likely because of both disagreement and gridlock, though political activity is one avenue one can take with hope for longer term impact. Policing or mental health policy and programs in the in the local communities also might have some impact, but again most individuals won't be able to make an impact (not that they couldn't but won't in practice without a high degree of engagement). But hosting a class? That is something everyone organization has full autonomy to successfully accomplish. It is within the organizational and budgetary resources of small companies, big ones, churches, schools, local community centers, etc. Think about the duck and cover training for surviving a nuclear blast. You might not be able to do much as the average individual to avoid nuclear confrontation, but you can mitigate it on the margin with some tangible steps.

tobyjsullivan 5y ago

> By the time we enter the corporate world we are accustomed to this training. This is the training we receive in school. It starts in elementary school and nearly every school teaches some form of active shooter training What. The. Fruit. Where is this normal??? I have never once received active shooter training. It’s been a few years since I was in grade school (class of 2004, baby!) and two years since I worked in an office but, still, this sounds extremely foreign. I’ve lived and worked in Canada and Australia but not the US. Is this actually normal in the US? Forget first-aid kits. How could anyone be okay with this being normal?

boredumb 5y ago
There were earthquake drills, shooting drills, "lock down" drills and bomb threat drills throughout school. Basically all of them consisted of "Sit under your desk and play thumb wars quietly with classmates and listen to your teacher or the classroom speakers instructions"
bogota 5y ago
Have you just not been watching the news for the last 15 years?
sp332 5y ago
This is very normal in the US. Many schools prevented classrooms from opening the doors to improve ventilation during covid, because it would violate their policy about keeping the doors shut in case there was a shooting. And yeah we have a relatively high amount of shootings, but they are still rare in an absolute sense. A lot of this is driven by an industry that sells bulletproof desks and junk, and needs to keep people afraid because it's profitable. Edit: I should also point out that shifting responsibility for active shooter response to the individual, the victim, is a way to avoid discussions about actual policy change or to hold people with real power accountable at all.
- zzzeek 5y ago
  > And yeah we have a relatively high amount of shootings, but they are still rare in an absolute sense. A lot of this is driven by an industry that sells bulletproof desks and junk, and needs to keep people afraid because it's profitable. Let me correct that for you: all of this is driven by a gun industry that sells actual guns and bullets and has for decades lobbied gun safety laws practically out of existence in the US, and needs to keep gun owners afraid of their "second amendment rights" being taken away because it's profitable.

happytoexplain 5y ago

There are a couple comments confounded by the normalization of active shooter training, but (as is often the case with these comments), I can't tell from the wording if they disagree with the practice or are merely upset (understandably) that such a thing is even necessary. I guess the answer in both cases is the same, though: An unfortunate reality is still a reality.

OscarCunningham 5y ago
It seems like it would increase the number of shootings by putting the idea in children's heads.
- err4nt 5y ago
  And/or how to predict the reaction and behaviour of people in an event like that.
dangle1 5y ago
Some of the "anti-training" sentiment comes from concern that the drills themselves can be very traumatic for children who are already trying to understand the real shootings that they hear about. It's very hard to measure/analyze the risk from drills vs. the risk from no drills, especially if the rate of shootings is changing over time.
rob74 5y ago
I am upset that this is necessary, and even more upset that everybody accepts this "status quo" as normal and the (usually very timid) calls to do something about it only lead to more guns being sold.
causi 5y ago
It isn't. The number of children that die in school shootings is an average of 35 per year. That is of course horrible, but in comparison to other sources of childhood death it's tiny. 150 a year die of food allergies. Eight are killed by lightning every year. Does lightning get 1/4 as much attention as school shootings despite causing 1/4 as many deaths? Even comparing, very specifically, intentional firearm homicide of children outside of school to school shooting deaths shows that, per hour, schools are fantastically safer than when kids aren't at school. The US has a gun violence problem but school shootings are just a barely-audible echo of it.

mhb 5y ago

I recently watched this video about assembling a first aid kit for a shop (https://youtu.be/A0EmfREhgRw https://youtu.be/A0EmfREhgRw) and I bought many of the suggested items. Some of the links no longer worked - here is what I bought: Israeli Bandage - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0166NR1OM https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0166NR1OM Super Glue - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ESG4TK8 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01ESG4TK8 Alcohol wipes - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O9XEDES https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00O9XEDES Burn cream - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0084GX1JO https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0084GX1JO Eye Wash Cups - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072FH7V5H https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B072FH7V5H Non-Adherent Pads - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017JT0MP2 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017JT0MP2 First Aid Cabinet - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA085W0 https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00FA085W0 Elastic Stretch Gauze Rolls - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K2FL98H https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07K2FL98H First Aid Tape - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TSJ8XC https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B001TSJ8XC Tourniquet - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Outdoor-Portable-Tourniquet-First-Aid-Quick-Slow-Release-Buckle-Medical-Military-Tactical-Emergency-Tourniquet-Strap-One-Hand/862277233 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Outdoor-Portable-Tourniquet-First... Scissors - https://www.walmart.com/ip/PRE-51-5-5-BANDAGE-SCISSOR/22647467 https://www.walmart.com/ip/PRE-51-5-5-BANDAGE-SCISSOR/226474... Wound seal - https://www.walmart.com/ip/WoundSeal-Powder-4-Each/347523589 https://www.walmart.com/ip/WoundSeal-Powder-4-Each/347523589 Clotting gauze - https://www.walmart.com/ip/QuikClot-Advanced-Clotting-Gauze-3-x-24-in/966648672 https://www.walmart.com/ip/QuikClot-Advanced-Clotting-Gauze-... Liquid bandage spray - https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nexcare-No-Sting-Liquid-Bandage-Spray-0-61-fl-oz-1-Pack/10890126 https://www.walmart.com/ip/Nexcare-No-Sting-Liquid-Bandage-S...

hkchad 5y ago

There are First Aid courses offered everywhere that cover CPR, AED and even how to provide oxygen. I take them every 2 years to stay fresh and get some sudo practice. Nothings stopping you from doing this on your own!

mbrd 5y ago

I grew up in the UK so never had anything other than fire drills, but I’m in the US now it’s pretty sad when your kindergartner tells you they had to pretend there was a lion in the corridor and the teacher locked the door and asked them to hide in the corner of the classroom.

brightball 5y ago

Totally agreed. I've long believed that first aid should be taught in school at every level and that every graduating high school student should come out first aid and CPR certified. IMO it just makes sense to create a better society all around. Personal Finance + First Aid/CPR should be an expectation of everybody that graduates high school in the US but for some reason, neither are.

GlenTheMachine 5y ago

Without identifying my workspace, I will relate the following: - We are required to complete an active shooter training course annually - No training in first aid is offered, even after employees requested it - We are forbidden from purchasing first aid kits using company money, the reason being that none of us is certified in first aid

aerostable_slug 5y ago
That stinks. I used to work for a major public utility, and it was the complete opposite. Mandatory drills for all sorts of contingencies, fully stocked disaster cabinets on every floor, influenza vaccines offered onsite for free, heck they even had a pandemic ops center where they could lock in a bunch of healthy people to keep the lights on while everyone else has the plague. We made videos on how to lift things without getting hurt — and this was the infosec group! The company even did stuff like give out small free flashlights, At the time it was a little tiresome, but after the fact I appreciate the time and resources spent on it.

nimbius 5y ago

the articles author seems to conflate the context and purpose of either. Active shooter "training" is designed solely for self-preservation in an emergency situation and shouldnt be combined with first-aid as it by definition means youre at imminent risk of death or serious bodily harm. Its the same reason the emergency protocol for a gas alarm is to evacuate. you cant help people when youre dead. that having been said check out your local YMCA or library for first aid/red cross events that will teach you CPR/AED/O2 administration as well as the heimlich maneuver and how to properly use a fire extinguisher. your facility safety coordinator (if your company is large enough) should be hosting volunteer trainings for the AED devices, but if not your local fire department likely hosts a fire safety event that includes the devices as part of CPR training. get into the habit of identifying exit signs and make it routine to use the stairs at work so you can guide others to safety in a fire. locate extinguishers and familiarize yourself with emergency numbers at your office but be prepared to take down information to relay to responders such as the nature of the event, victims age, any medications they consume as well as any environmental hazard that exists.

kerblang 5y ago

I've worked in the USA at numerous companies for 30 years and never was sent to "active shooter training". I have had anti-harassment training, suspicious person training, security training, safety training, and then some but not active shooter, ever. Not that it would bother me, but then again what exactly is there to learn? "Duck"?

mgarfias 5y ago

More than first aid, you need trauma classes. Stop the bleed, things like that. Then you need eq. Does your org have TQs? Israeli bandages? Celox? Rolls of gauze to pack wounds with? If things get awful, you need all those things. Personally, I carry a TQ, and have taken trauma classes.