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Telegram is next?
by kozak 5y ago
Telegram is next?
- kube-system 5y agoTelegram is free isn't it? I don't think there are any federal funds being used to buy telegram today. So, there's not much for the FCC to ban.
- sschueller 5y agoProbably not but McAfee should be added just because it sucks so much.
- _joel 5y ago<> Norton entered the chat
- orangepurple 5y agoMcAfee uninstallation instructions by John McAfee himself https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQrAfQMpnZk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UQrAfQMpnZk
- throw10920 5y agoUnironically, McAfee may be a greater threat to US national security than Kasperky. McAfee is actually used by the Department of Defense[1], and Kaspersky is not. Given how bad McAfee actually is, I think that that makes it worse. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_Based_Security_System https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host_Based_Security_System
- ComradePhil 5y agoVery likely, being founded and run by Russians... and a good way to stop people from communicating freely about the world affairs.
- morganvachon 5y agoRussian citizens != Russian government. The Telegram development team is not on good terms with the Russian government last I read. With that said, it still operates within the borders so it's subject to government control (just as any US-based messaging service is subject to US government control). It's always a cat-and-mouse game between those who want free, unfettered, unmonitored communications and the governments that feel threatened by that kind of freedom.
- ComradePhil 5y agoYou are thinking from a completely different perspective. There's nothing for governments to allow people to communicate freely. Telegram is one of the few platforms that allows that... and this is a good opportunity for the US government to do that.
- older 5y agoLast I read Telegram is on very good terms with the Russian government. I have already posted link to the source in this thread.
- mohamez 5y agoIIRC Telegram is banned in Russia, and its CEO is not in good terms with the Russian government.
- ComradePhil 5y agoDefinitely not banned in Russia: https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/19/last-apps-standing-telegram-whatsapp-duck-russia-bans https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2022/3/19/last-apps-standing-...
- thematrixturtle 5y agoThey tried in 2018, but couldn't pull it off. It's unclear what Telegram agreed to in 2020 to get officially unblocked though. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_Telegram_in_Russia https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blocking_Telegram_in_Russia
- ramesh31 5y ago>It's unclear what Telegram agreed to in 2020 to get officially unblocked though. Most likely implementing FSB backdoors.
- paganel 5y agoNot sure why you're down-voted for stating out the facts as they are.
- FpUser 5y agoBecause some people do not like pesky facts when those interfere with the narrative?
- older 5y agoIt is not only not banned but "found a compromise" and agreed to co-operate with FSB according to Russian MP (google translated article from tjournal.ru): https://tjournal-ru.translate.goog/news/562296-durov-nashel-kompromiss-s-fsb-zachem-emu-sovershat-glupost-v-gosdume-ne-planiruyut-blokirovat-telegram?_x_tr_sl=ru&_x_tr_tl=en&_x_tr_pto=wapp https://tjournal-ru.translate.goog/news/562296-durov-nashel-...
- throwmeariver1 5y agoI found it always fishy that telegram applauds itself for being a secure messenger but decided against encryption by default. With the flick of a switch every doubt would go away but alas.
- pantulis 5y agoI have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer Telegram vs Whatsapp in terms of security.
- ramesh31 5y ago>I have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer Telegram vs Whatsapp in terms of security. Tribalism is a helluva drug.
- spacemanmatt 5y agoI have also been amused by the number of technical people that prefer anything vs Signal in terms of security.
- saagarjha 5y agoI've been amused by the number of technical people that prefer Signal vs just not shutting up about the messaging app they use and not pretending like they're some sort of authority on the topic instead of someone who deals with SOC2 compliance daily. (This is actually independent of you or Signal, I just find it amusing that people throw their security brand™ behind some app and it's just them picking the one they like most of the time.)
- spacemanmatt 5y agoIt would be way weirder if people threw their brand support behind an app they didn't even like enough to use.
- codedokode 5y ago
- ibejoeb 5y agoThe White House campaign to explain its Russia policy on social media did so via Chinese properties Zoom and TikTok. I don't think we can rely only on domestic production right now.
- orangepurple 5y agoTelegram is run by a citizen of St Kitts and Nevis. He escaped Russia after they beat down his door.
- throwaway290 5y agoWho also promised to cooperate with russian government in exchange for lifting the ban on the app. And even if he didn't, if you run the most popular messenger app in Russia you can't simply hide behind "citizen of some other country". KGB is known for poisoning/shooting people abroad for much less, and especially if you have family or close relatives back in your country of birth you really have little leverage to speak of.
- stjohnswarts 5y agotelegram is mostly outside of russia now isn't it? I think they still have a programming team there but the "owners" are outside the country.