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To be fair, it seems like Google backtracked on this due to the negative attention. All of their original statements about this made it clear they would be trac

by tedivm 5y ago

To be fair, it seems like Google backtracked on this due to the negative attention. All of their original statements about this made it clear they would be tracking people after the change, but in the two months since the original announcement they must have changed their minds.

tut-urut-utut 5y ago
It's more likely that they are now tracing users anyway, they just lie they don't.
taneq 5y ago
> due to the negative attention They didn't backtrack and they didn't change their minds. They decided to wait a little while until attention on this particular invasion had subsided before perpetrating it as they had always planned.
jsnell 5y ago
I don't think that's true. The 2022-02-02 copy of the support page on archive.org shows the same answer: https://web.archive.org/web/20220202033903/https://support.google.com/a/answer/11194328#zippy=%2Cwhat-happens-for-my-users-if-i-dont-do-anything https://web.archive.org/web/20220202033903/https://support.g... (That's the first version of that page on archive.org, and also seems to be the day this was announced based on the previous HN discussion.)
- tedivm 5y ago
  The link you shared says- > Starting March 29, 2022, the Web & App Activity Admin console setting is going away and a new user setting, Google Workspace search history, is enabled by default for all users. That says they're removing the existing option and replacing it with a new one, and that the new one will be on by default. This has changed- they're now honoring the old setting and migrating its value to the new one, as opposed to ignoring it like they said they were going to do here.
  - jsnell 5y ago
    It's not saying that. It's saying that the "Web & App Activity" setting in the admin console is going away and being replaced with nothing in in the admin console. Users will have two settings, controlling disjoint features, "Web & App Activity" and "Workspace search history". The former one will be set to whatever the "Web & App Activity" admin console setting was set to. The latter one will be set to enabled. The archive.org copy of the initial FAQ version explicitly states this multiple times. > If you disabled Web & App Activity in the Admin console, it’s turned off for Google Workspace users.

by tedivm 5y ago

tut-urut-utut 5y ago

It's more likely that they are now tracing users anyway, they just lie they don't.

taneq 5y ago

> due to the negative attention They didn't backtrack and they didn't change their minds. They decided to wait a little while until attention on this particular invasion had subsided before perpetrating it as they had always planned.

jsnell 5y ago

I don't think that's true. The 2022-02-02 copy of the support page on archive.org shows the same answer: https://web.archive.org/web/20220202033903/https://support.google.com/a/answer/11194328#zippy=%2Cwhat-happens-for-my-users-if-i-dont-do-anything https://web.archive.org/web/20220202033903/https://support.g... (That's the first version of that page on archive.org, and also seems to be the day this was announced based on the previous HN discussion.)

tedivm 5y ago
The link you shared says- > Starting March 29, 2022, the Web & App Activity Admin console setting is going away and a new user setting, Google Workspace search history, is enabled by default for all users. That says they're removing the existing option and replacing it with a new one, and that the new one will be on by default. This has changed- they're now honoring the old setting and migrating its value to the new one, as opposed to ignoring it like they said they were going to do here.
- jsnell 5y ago
  It's not saying that. It's saying that the "Web & App Activity" setting in the admin console is going away and being replaced with nothing in in the admin console. Users will have two settings, controlling disjoint features, "Web & App Activity" and "Workspace search history". The former one will be set to whatever the "Web & App Activity" admin console setting was set to. The latter one will be set to enabled. The archive.org copy of the initial FAQ version explicitly states this multiple times. > If you disabled Web & App Activity in the Admin console, it’s turned off for Google Workspace users.