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Side tangent, I love how when Tesla has anything go wrong its all over the news and massively upvoted on Reddit / HN. Chevy Bolts literally had to be parked ou

Side tangent, I love how when Tesla has anything go wrong its all over the news and massively upvoted on Reddit / HN. Chevy Bolts literally had to be parked outside your home and have battery charge permanently reduced 50%, only 43 upvotes here on HN. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28252550 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=28252550

bduerst 5y ago
Top comment calls out why. Tesla is a luxury brand, not a mid range car. Price differences bring different expectations.
- Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
  Eh...I own a Model 3 and I would not consider the Model 3 or Model Y (Which is essentially just a slightly larger Model 3 with a hatch) to be luxury cars. It's a nice car, for sure, but I wouldn't call it luxury.
  - bradlys 5y ago
    It’s the price point. You can get BMWs for the same price and they’re definitely luxury cars.
    - Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
      The Model 3 is a $25,000 car with a $15,000 battery.
      - bduerst 5y ago
        Underlying cost doesn't matter to markets when it's priced the same as luxury cars. It's the same customers with the same disposable income and different expectations than mid-range.
ineedasername 5y ago
Tesla sells more, does a lot more cutting edge & controversial things, and so in a community of technophiles like HN it's always going to be a bigger flashpoint of discussion. Especially compared to a stodgy 100+ year old company following a trend for which Tesla laid much of the foundation. Not that I think that's how it should be. For me, even (especially?) from a technophile POV, problems with EV's from a company like Chevy (well, GM) or VW are more interesting. These are the companies that, in the shorter term, will have a much larger impact on mass market EV adoption. They're the ones with the manufacturing, distribution, and service base needed to quickly scale into low & mid market segments that Tesla doesn't much seem to care about. That's what will define how much, or how quickly, these become just another everyday piece of tech. In 5 years the mobile phone market went from most people buying a feature phone to most buying a smartphone. The screwups made by the big EV manufacturers will define how quickly EVs do the same thing for the automobile market.

bduerst 5y ago

Top comment calls out why. Tesla is a luxury brand, not a mid range car. Price differences bring different expectations.

Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
Eh...I own a Model 3 and I would not consider the Model 3 or Model Y (Which is essentially just a slightly larger Model 3 with a hatch) to be luxury cars. It's a nice car, for sure, but I wouldn't call it luxury.
- bradlys 5y ago
  It’s the price point. You can get BMWs for the same price and they’re definitely luxury cars.
  - Sohcahtoa82 5y ago
    The Model 3 is a $25,000 car with a $15,000 battery.
    - bduerst 5y ago
      Underlying cost doesn't matter to markets when it's priced the same as luxury cars. It's the same customers with the same disposable income and different expectations than mid-range.

ineedasername 5y ago

Tesla sells more, does a lot more cutting edge & controversial things, and so in a community of technophiles like HN it's always going to be a bigger flashpoint of discussion. Especially compared to a stodgy 100+ year old company following a trend for which Tesla laid much of the foundation. Not that I think that's how it should be. For me, even (especially?) from a technophile POV, problems with EV's from a company like Chevy (well, GM) or VW are more interesting. These are the companies that, in the shorter term, will have a much larger impact on mass market EV adoption. They're the ones with the manufacturing, distribution, and service base needed to quickly scale into low & mid market segments that Tesla doesn't much seem to care about. That's what will define how much, or how quickly, these become just another everyday piece of tech. In 5 years the mobile phone market went from most people buying a feature phone to most buying a smartphone. The screwups made by the big EV manufacturers will define how quickly EVs do the same thing for the automobile market.