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Are there any that work like robot vacuums? I mean NO funny cables around a garden that show robot a no go zone? I want robot to build a map of garden just like

by krzyk 5y ago

Are there any that work like robot vacuums? I mean NO funny cables around a garden that show robot a no go zone? I want robot to build a map of garden just like Roborocks.

xxs 5y ago
I have had ideas to build a GPS based prototype on my own as a hobby project (both the hardware and software)... other than that I don't know of commercially viable ones. However, in practice the cables are no issue - you can have them installed and dug in the soil rather trivially (the cable is shot in). Once done - you'd never notice them ever again. No go zone can be organized with magnetic strips (also buried).
Zanfa 5y ago
Roomba was developing a system without a boundary wire at some point, but it doesn’t look like they ended up shipping it. Not sure why nobody else is working on it. Could it be that the ToF sensors in indoor robot vacuums are just not powerful enough to operate in sunlight? Maybe it’s because the boundary wire installation is a matter of minutes and only needs to be done once?
- gruturo 5y ago
  The boundary wire was not a matter of minutes for me - far from it, more like half a day - but that's because I wanted to bury it out of sight. I guess they still rely on boundary wire because it's very reliable - you don't want a couple unlucky GPS readings to cause your robot mower, armed with very real spinning blades, to end up in the neighbor's yard or on the street and hurt somebody.
  - Zanfa 5y ago
    I made the same mistake the first time as well, took forever to get it installed underground by hand. The second time I paid like 100 euros for the full-service package where they showed up with a cable-laying machine and it literally took the guy more time to unload the machine from the van than it took him to circle the property and lay the cable. The bigger headache with boundary cables is finding and fixing any cuts that might happen when doing unrelated yardwork.
    - xxs 5y ago
      >finding and fixing any cuts that might happen when doing unrelated yardwork this is also easy if you have decent electronics equipment... or it's built in the mower, itself, where you can select to follow the line till the break.
  - xxs 5y ago
    >far from it, more like half a day - but that's because I wanted to bury it out of sight. >>dug in the soil rather trivially (the cable is shot in) From my previous comment. Look for "Cable Laying Machine" rent; it's around 60euro/day here.
- krzyk 5y ago
  > Maybe it’s because the boundary wire installation is a matter of minutes and only needs to be done once? Yeah, unless you have a dog that wants to dig stuff up.

by krzyk 5y ago

Are there any that work like robot vacuums? I mean NO funny cables around a garden that show robot a no go zone? I want robot to build a map of garden just like Roborocks.

xxs 5y ago

I have had ideas to build a GPS based prototype on my own as a hobby project (both the hardware and software)... other than that I don't know of commercially viable ones. However, in practice the cables are no issue - you can have them installed and dug in the soil rather trivially (the cable is shot in). Once done - you'd never notice them ever again. No go zone can be organized with magnetic strips (also buried).

Zanfa 5y ago

Roomba was developing a system without a boundary wire at some point, but it doesn’t look like they ended up shipping it. Not sure why nobody else is working on it. Could it be that the ToF sensors in indoor robot vacuums are just not powerful enough to operate in sunlight? Maybe it’s because the boundary wire installation is a matter of minutes and only needs to be done once?

gruturo 5y ago
The boundary wire was not a matter of minutes for me - far from it, more like half a day - but that's because I wanted to bury it out of sight. I guess they still rely on boundary wire because it's very reliable - you don't want a couple unlucky GPS readings to cause your robot mower, armed with very real spinning blades, to end up in the neighbor's yard or on the street and hurt somebody.
- Zanfa 5y ago
  I made the same mistake the first time as well, took forever to get it installed underground by hand. The second time I paid like 100 euros for the full-service package where they showed up with a cable-laying machine and it literally took the guy more time to unload the machine from the van than it took him to circle the property and lay the cable. The bigger headache with boundary cables is finding and fixing any cuts that might happen when doing unrelated yardwork.
  - xxs 5y ago
    >finding and fixing any cuts that might happen when doing unrelated yardwork this is also easy if you have decent electronics equipment... or it's built in the mower, itself, where you can select to follow the line till the break.
- xxs 5y ago
  >far from it, more like half a day - but that's because I wanted to bury it out of sight. >>dug in the soil rather trivially (the cable is shot in) From my previous comment. Look for "Cable Laying Machine" rent; it's around 60euro/day here.
krzyk 5y ago
> Maybe it’s because the boundary wire installation is a matter of minutes and only needs to be done once? Yeah, unless you have a dog that wants to dig stuff up.