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Fine I’ll link the damn Wikipedia page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic Things can be in conflict without b

Fine I’ll link the damn Wikipedia page. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dialectic Things can be in conflict without being in combat. Acknowledging that one thing conflicts with another doesn’t mean one must extinguish the other. My whole point was to identify how the two could be reconciled for the purpose of the endeavor, even while still being in conflict. Please tell me where you still don’t understand why I’m not arguing with a strawman argument you keep trying to assign to me.

unityByFreedom 5y ago
> Acknowledging that one thing conflicts with another doesn’t mean one must extinguish the other. Conflict does imply one thing stands opposed to another. I would not agree that making money inherently makes the world a worse place. Rather, the existence of money facilitates trade and makes the world better because it allows us to specialize in our respective trades. If I'm a farmer who raises chickens, money makes it so I don't have to trade for things with chickens.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  > I would not agree that making money inherently makes the world a worse place. I didn’t say that it does. But I think you’re more interested in justifying making money than understanding the conflict I’m identifying.
  - unityByFreedom 5y ago
    > understanding the conflict I’m identifying. From where I stand, there isn't a conflict between making money and making the world better. Money is a proxy for what people think makes their world better. And, since what people think is entirely subjective, there may be conflicting ideas about what makes the world better. If I want the city to spend $100k on shareable bicycles and you want it to spend $100k to build a recycling center, who is right? Money does not introduce conflict. Different ideas might.
ironmagma 5y ago
That is a bizarre distinction, one I’ve never heard of and certainly can’t find any information about “logical combat.” I’d be interested to know where you learned of this dichotomy. If this semantic issue is the source of the disagreement, what we have here is a failure to communicate.
- eyelidlessness 5y ago
  My goodness there is a wealth of literature specifically available from the link I posted. Counterposing ideas is a basic tenet or philosophy. The tension between them is a fundamental underpinning of the complexity of living in society. It’s a whole world of ideas to explore if you want to. Grab a book if you’re curious.

unityByFreedom 5y ago

> Acknowledging that one thing conflicts with another doesn’t mean one must extinguish the other. Conflict does imply one thing stands opposed to another. I would not agree that making money inherently makes the world a worse place. Rather, the existence of money facilitates trade and makes the world better because it allows us to specialize in our respective trades. If I'm a farmer who raises chickens, money makes it so I don't have to trade for things with chickens.

eyelidlessness 5y ago
> I would not agree that making money inherently makes the world a worse place. I didn’t say that it does. But I think you’re more interested in justifying making money than understanding the conflict I’m identifying.
- unityByFreedom 5y ago
  > understanding the conflict I’m identifying. From where I stand, there isn't a conflict between making money and making the world better. Money is a proxy for what people think makes their world better. And, since what people think is entirely subjective, there may be conflicting ideas about what makes the world better. If I want the city to spend $100k on shareable bicycles and you want it to spend $100k to build a recycling center, who is right? Money does not introduce conflict. Different ideas might.

ironmagma 5y ago

That is a bizarre distinction, one I’ve never heard of and certainly can’t find any information about “logical combat.” I’d be interested to know where you learned of this dichotomy. If this semantic issue is the source of the disagreement, what we have here is a failure to communicate.

eyelidlessness 5y ago
My goodness there is a wealth of literature specifically available from the link I posted. Counterposing ideas is a basic tenet or philosophy. The tension between them is a fundamental underpinning of the complexity of living in society. It’s a whole world of ideas to explore if you want to. Grab a book if you’re curious.