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You can get a sense by looking at the interactive map here: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/11503152/shipping-routes-map https://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/11503152/sh

by krasin 5y ago

You can get a sense by looking at the interactive map here: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/11503152/shipping-routes-map https://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/11503152/shipping-routes-map

elihu 5y ago
It's hard to get a sense of what the majority is from that, but it seems like there's a lot of ships that are hugging the shorelines and a lot that aren't.
- moralestapia 5y ago
  Here you go, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_transport#/media/File:Shipping_routes_red_black.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_transport#/media/File... Hope that's clear enough.
  - tlb 5y ago
    It's not clear to me. If you're able to estimate the fraction of cargo shipped on short-haul coastal routes from that picture, can you share what number you arrived at and how?
    - moralestapia 5y ago
      >Red means the route is busier https://www.statista.com/statistics/253988/estimated-containerized-cargo-flows-on-major-container-trade-routes/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/253988/estimated-contain... Transatlantic + transpacific routes account for ~60% of cargo shipped.
    - Ekaros 5y ago
      To me it looks like ships go either in straight shortest lines, some great circle or some known current. There appears to be lot of coast hugging, but there is actually very little stopping there.
VintageCool 5y ago
That map actually makes me think the statement is true. Even if there are a bunch of ships crossing the Atlantic and the Pacific, the really thick streams of ships mostly stick close to land. The only heavily-trafficked routes that stray far from land are the Singapore - South Africa route and to a lesser extent the South Africa - Brazil routes. The Great Circle between Los Angeles and Beijing cuts through Dutch Harbor and the Aleutians. http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=PEK-LAX http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=PEK-LAX There are certainly remaining routes that might not be well-served by the "electric short hop" strategy, but I think most of the world's shipping routes could be amenable to Fleetzero's electrification plan. And a bigger version of that same map: https://www.shipmap.org/ https://www.shipmap.org/
moralestapia 5y ago
Great resource, thanks for sharing!

by krasin 5y ago

You can get a sense by looking at the interactive map here: https://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/11503152/shipping-routes-map https://www.vox.com/2016/4/25/11503152/shipping-routes-map

elihu 5y ago

It's hard to get a sense of what the majority is from that, but it seems like there's a lot of ships that are hugging the shorelines and a lot that aren't.

moralestapia 5y ago
Here you go, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_transport#/media/File:Shipping_routes_red_black.png https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maritime_transport#/media/File... Hope that's clear enough.
- tlb 5y ago
  It's not clear to me. If you're able to estimate the fraction of cargo shipped on short-haul coastal routes from that picture, can you share what number you arrived at and how?
  - moralestapia 5y ago
    >Red means the route is busier https://www.statista.com/statistics/253988/estimated-containerized-cargo-flows-on-major-container-trade-routes/ https://www.statista.com/statistics/253988/estimated-contain... Transatlantic + transpacific routes account for ~60% of cargo shipped.
  - Ekaros 5y ago
    To me it looks like ships go either in straight shortest lines, some great circle or some known current. There appears to be lot of coast hugging, but there is actually very little stopping there.

VintageCool 5y ago

That map actually makes me think the statement is true. Even if there are a bunch of ships crossing the Atlantic and the Pacific, the really thick streams of ships mostly stick close to land. The only heavily-trafficked routes that stray far from land are the Singapore - South Africa route and to a lesser extent the South Africa - Brazil routes. The Great Circle between Los Angeles and Beijing cuts through Dutch Harbor and the Aleutians. http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=PEK-LAX http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=PEK-LAX There are certainly remaining routes that might not be well-served by the "electric short hop" strategy, but I think most of the world's shipping routes could be amenable to Fleetzero's electrification plan. And a bigger version of that same map: https://www.shipmap.org/ https://www.shipmap.org/

moralestapia 5y ago

Great resource, thanks for sharing!