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I think that framing is one which makes sense (~10yr post-graduate engineering program). I wouldn't restrict it to just engineers, but I would certainly focus
by DelaneyM 5y ago
I think that framing is one which makes sense (~10yr post-graduate engineering program).
I wouldn't restrict it to just engineers, but I would certainly focus it on early-career managers in any high-skill industry where the transition from IC to organizational leadership is a challenge.
The majority of my class was on the Ivy->Consulting/PE->MBA track, and though many of them were wonderful and well-meaning human beings, that did not prepare them effectively to lead in industry.
- g_p 5y agoYeah - I deliberately suggested engineering just to be controversial and test the idea, but I guess I'm thinking "any subject that isn't taught by a business school". A common pattern I've seen outside the US is a trend of doing a "generic business degree" leading to a few years of employment in a nondescript generic role, followed by an MBA. I'm not quite sure where the market need for undergraduate business degree education comes from, or who is hiring them. It's clear the demand is there, as they're not unemployed en masse, and many do it, but I wonder if business could viably become a "postgraduate only" subject, so everyone doing it had a grounding in a subject matter area, rather then a generic undergraduate business degree?
- DelaneyM 5y agoAn undergraduate business degree as a primarily academic pipeline makes some sense, similar to an undergraduate art history or econ degree. I really grew to appreciate how much real and important research is happening under the "business" umbrella (organizational behaviour, marketing, leadership, etc.). Other than that though I totally agree, I have no idea what market value an undergraduate business degree offers.