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Most everyone talking here is doing so from a place of near-complete ignorance. There is literally sweet F.A. taught in grade-school history/social studies: the

Most everyone talking here is doing so from a place of near-complete ignorance. There is literally sweet F.A. taught in grade-school history/social studies: the programs are myopic and narcissistic. Exceedingly few of us have lived outside our birthplace bubble long enough to understand the history and social climate of a foreign nation. Heck, less than half of Americans have a passport at all, and only a fraction of those who do, go further afield than Canada or Mexico. There is virtually nothing useful that Americans—North Americans—can contribute to a discussion of European policy.

Fatnino 5y ago
Tell us how you really feel
- moistly 5y ago
  I feel this thread is chock-full of ahistorical ignorance and fatuous libertarianism that shouldn’t have a place here, not because it is unworthy of discussion but because the participants lack the required education and life experience to do it justice. HN is great for technology insight and complete shite for socio-political discussion.
  - mardifoufs 5y ago
    Libertarianism is when you don't want people to get arrested for drawing a sign that is literally not nazi.... while being charged of drawing a nazi sign? Wow, maybe you should reconsider how crazy that is. Germany has a bad history with the swastika, sure, but the Z is not the swastika. Calling everyone who disagrees with you a libertarian is what's ignorant, and not resisting to authoritarian urges is the unhistorical stance to take here. You are not at war with Russia (thankfully!). And having a weird siege mentality when your country is not at war is borderline deranged. No, there's no "we are at war in all but name" because if Germany was at war with Russia, Z symbols would be the least of your worries. Going after symbols when Europe is still literally financing Russia's invasion as we speak is just... mind boggling. At least the so called "libertarians" are not paying blood money to Russia.
    - moistly 5y ago
      So. Fucking. Fatuous.
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Fatnino 5y ago

Tell us how you really feel

moistly 5y ago
I feel this thread is chock-full of ahistorical ignorance and fatuous libertarianism that shouldn’t have a place here, not because it is unworthy of discussion but because the participants lack the required education and life experience to do it justice. HN is great for technology insight and complete shite for socio-political discussion.
- mardifoufs 5y ago
  Libertarianism is when you don't want people to get arrested for drawing a sign that is literally not nazi.... while being charged of drawing a nazi sign? Wow, maybe you should reconsider how crazy that is. Germany has a bad history with the swastika, sure, but the Z is not the swastika. Calling everyone who disagrees with you a libertarian is what's ignorant, and not resisting to authoritarian urges is the unhistorical stance to take here. You are not at war with Russia (thankfully!). And having a weird siege mentality when your country is not at war is borderline deranged. No, there's no "we are at war in all but name" because if Germany was at war with Russia, Z symbols would be the least of your worries. Going after symbols when Europe is still literally financing Russia's invasion as we speak is just... mind boggling. At least the so called "libertarians" are not paying blood money to Russia.
  - moistly 5y ago
    So. Fucking. Fatuous.

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