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SAT scores correlate with IQ test scores. SAT is just a 'legal' thinly veiled version of IQ test.
by artful-hacker 5y ago
SAT scores correlate with IQ test scores. SAT is just a 'legal' thinly veiled version of IQ test.
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- Someone1234 5y agoIQ Tests aren't illegal though? If colleges wanted to administer IQ tests they absolutely could.
- artful-hacker 5y agoMaybe "more politically correct" or "easier to get away with" would be a better way to phrase what I meant.
- shakezula 5y ago> SAT scores correlate with IQ test scores. Do you have a source on this?
- artful-hacker 5y agoHoward Gardner's "Intelligence Reframed" (1999)
- hiq 5y agoYou can look for "intelligence" on https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SAT. From memory, Human Intelligence by Earl Hunt has plenty of references as well if you're into this topic.
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- rosmax_1337 5y agoWhy are IQ tests controversial?
- slavboj 5y agoBecause blacks have lower average scores on them.
- sin7 5y agoWhites also have lower average scores on them. Lower than Asians and Jews. At the elite level this would make a huge difference. At the state level not at all.
- nafix 5y agoWhat do you mean by "whites". American "whites"? The last IQ report has many Asian countries at the top followed by "white" European countries. Whites and blacks are such generic terms. There are many different types of white, black, asian, etc peoples that have different cultures and phenotypes based on the region. https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-iq-by-country https://worldpopulationreview.com/country-rankings/average-i...
- grumple 5y agoThat site is a mess. Shows a chart where the average IQ is 82, links to a page saying the average IQ is 100 (which is the original design). Also cites a eugenicist and thinks that worthy of a passing footnote. Frankly, I wouldn't trust anything I read there.
- car_analogy 5y agoCan we somehow blame this on oppression?
- sin7 5y agoNo need. Just attribute an unmeasurable quality such as creativity to your racial group.
- xanaxagoras 5y agoSo let's cut the shit then and just do IQ tests. This is the best technical university in the world offering the best technical education in history. It's where the smartest minds learn foundational knowledge that will enable them to make amazing technological contributions to mankind. Not everything needs to be a battleground for the boring diversity of skin color. It's actually important that we get the most qualified people in these seats.
- MiroF 5y agoBut shouldn't starting points be taken into consideration when you are judging someone's merit?
- commandlinefan 5y agoI've never seen somebody who opposes meritocracy actual suggest taking starting points into consideration - instead, they demand that easily observable, intrinsic physical characteristics be used as a proxy for "starting point".
- MiroF 5y agoBut there are a number of studies demonstrating how race & class impact things (when controlled for other factors) like teacher perception, grading, letters of recommendation, not to mention just the fact that if you are growing up in a black (or white) household that has $5 in wealth, you'll have less access to educational opportunity than the white (or black, albeit far more rarely) household with $200,000 in wealth. We shouldn't seek to control for these factors?
- pishpash 5y agoNo. That only tells you to fix those factors but the outcome is what they are. By the time of the ACT/SAT test it's too late to fix those things. Fix those upstream.
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- thedougd 5y agoA is for aptitude.
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