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Based on how little progress Russia is making and how little backing they have, with nuclear weapons out of the way I can't see Russia making any progress again

Based on how little progress Russia is making and how little backing they have, with nuclear weapons out of the way I can't see Russia making any progress against the EU, let alone if you include Britain and the US. Meanwhile China will be looking at the US and weighing up Taiwan. North Korea will be weighing up South Korea. There have been some very unhappy editorials in Pakistan after the recent misfire from India. It's possible we're at the start of ww3 now. When do US schools say WW2 started? 1937? 38? 39? 41?

vmception 5y ago
39 for the dual attack on Poland and Britain and 42 for US involvement after Pearl Harbor no mention of the financial support of specific sides for years before either date In my experience they cover rise of national socialist germany, like stuff in 1932 like reichstag fire, night of broken glass Very piecemeal and as a chronology after WW1 but not sure what level of detail is really relevant The main parallel i could see is that the russia military advances on ukraine wouldnt be a US start date of the conflict and that it wont be over in months but maybe we’ll get an official start date in 3-5 years The other parallel is that I always noticed it was a choice to protect nations you promised to protect, britain could have just … not backed poland, and a preemptive attack on the british to slow British retaliation maybe wouldn’t have occurred or could have been talked out of. Two months ago that would have been seen as “edgy”, but yeah nobody wants to actually back ukraine so looks like people were thinking it for some time.
wheelerof4te 5y ago
"Based on how little progress Russia is making..." I see this narative everywhere, but I wouldn't call it "little progress" when the land occupied in a mere month is the size of the UK. It took NATO 78 days of intense bombing of a much weaker and smaller Serbia to make any kind of progress. They even avoided the ground offensive. Imagine the disaster if the US went in with the ground forces. The US first spent months clearing out Iraq, then it spent years trying to hold it by a thread. Still we don't have the right number of casualties from that war. Russia could have just carpet bombed the entire Ukraine like it did with Mariupul recently. Why it didn't do it, we can only guess.
- KptMarchewa 5y ago
  >Why it didn't do it, we can only guess. Because strategic bombers are extremely expensive, and way more susceptible to long-range SAM systems that Ukraine still operates.
- colechristensen 5y ago
  >Russia could have just carpet bombed the entire Ukraine like it did with Mariupul recently. Why it didn't do it, we can only guess. Russia wasn't looking for territory but to annex a population and possibly create a puppet state justified with the idea of ethnic strife between ukranian-speaking and russian-speaking peoples and "saving" the historically aligned russian population. I.e. to keep hearts and minds of a population on their side. You can't do that if you carpet bomb cities and a lot of the positive Russian sentiment in Ukraine is obviously gone with how the war has progressed. Russia is now a bit stuck because Putin's power is largely based on image and support of older generations which remember a strong Soviet Union, just a reset to before this happened would be a serious blow to him and possibly the stability of Russia so they're ramping up the aggression and still not finding the easy success they expected.
adastra22 5y ago
1937 with the Japanese invasion of China.

vmception 5y ago

39 for the dual attack on Poland and Britain and 42 for US involvement after Pearl Harbor no mention of the financial support of specific sides for years before either date In my experience they cover rise of national socialist germany, like stuff in 1932 like reichstag fire, night of broken glass Very piecemeal and as a chronology after WW1 but not sure what level of detail is really relevant The main parallel i could see is that the russia military advances on ukraine wouldnt be a US start date of the conflict and that it wont be over in months but maybe we’ll get an official start date in 3-5 years The other parallel is that I always noticed it was a choice to protect nations you promised to protect, britain could have just … not backed poland, and a preemptive attack on the british to slow British retaliation maybe wouldn’t have occurred or could have been talked out of. Two months ago that would have been seen as “edgy”, but yeah nobody wants to actually back ukraine so looks like people were thinking it for some time.

wheelerof4te 5y ago

"Based on how little progress Russia is making..." I see this narative everywhere, but I wouldn't call it "little progress" when the land occupied in a mere month is the size of the UK. It took NATO 78 days of intense bombing of a much weaker and smaller Serbia to make any kind of progress. They even avoided the ground offensive. Imagine the disaster if the US went in with the ground forces. The US first spent months clearing out Iraq, then it spent years trying to hold it by a thread. Still we don't have the right number of casualties from that war. Russia could have just carpet bombed the entire Ukraine like it did with Mariupul recently. Why it didn't do it, we can only guess.

KptMarchewa 5y ago
>Why it didn't do it, we can only guess. Because strategic bombers are extremely expensive, and way more susceptible to long-range SAM systems that Ukraine still operates.
colechristensen 5y ago
>Russia could have just carpet bombed the entire Ukraine like it did with Mariupul recently. Why it didn't do it, we can only guess. Russia wasn't looking for territory but to annex a population and possibly create a puppet state justified with the idea of ethnic strife between ukranian-speaking and russian-speaking peoples and "saving" the historically aligned russian population. I.e. to keep hearts and minds of a population on their side. You can't do that if you carpet bomb cities and a lot of the positive Russian sentiment in Ukraine is obviously gone with how the war has progressed. Russia is now a bit stuck because Putin's power is largely based on image and support of older generations which remember a strong Soviet Union, just a reset to before this happened would be a serious blow to him and possibly the stability of Russia so they're ramping up the aggression and still not finding the easy success they expected.

adastra22 5y ago

1937 with the Japanese invasion of China.