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> I'm sure there will be some good games soon about how insane it is that there's anti-vaxxers, or election deniers. Or a game where people think they can make

> I'm sure there will be some good games soon about how insane it is that there's anti-vaxxers, or election deniers. Or a game where people think they can make a difference by voting harder!

adenozine 5y ago
I'm not anti-voting, but I guess I'm resigned to the "voting futility" idea that I think you're talking about. That being said, I am a faithful supporter of DSAUSA and have invested (rather than voted for) significant means towards the cause of a more socialistic reality in America. Faced with the size and influence of corporations in the world, I suppose it's the logical end of things that the world revolve around money and the means of "making" more money. I still vote too, but I guess I roll my eyes a little bit each time.
djbusby 5y ago
Voting does make a difference. Also, you can contribute to any candidates campaign - so you can money-vote in many places (USA)
- indigochill 5y ago
  > Voting does make a difference. In a parliamentary system, votes have a substantial impact. You can vote for a minority party that's actually aligned with your views and get represented if they get enough votes to get a seat in Parliament. It's not "throwing your vote away" like it is in the US. In a two-party first-past-the-post system, the impact of each vote is substantially reduced by comparison since not only are there only two competitive parties to vote for, but the winner takes everything. A vote for the "wrong" party means that vote leads to no representation. > Also, you can contribute to any candidates campaign - so you can money-vote in many places (USA) This is part of the problem in the US, because it gives the wealthiest interests the means to back their preferred representatives at amounts minority representatives can never hope to reach.
- brimble 5y ago
  It's fairly likely that, by the time I die, none of the voting I've done will have changed the outcome of a single election or ballot question. On the off chance it does, it'll almost certainly be at the county level or lower.
kelseyfrog 5y ago
I'm completely convinced that the voting in Redecor - Home Design Game[1] is completely random. What they've done is Skinner boxed their competitions in a way that more or less evenly distributes random rewards to maximize engagement rather than reward players based on merit. It has the veneer of a voting-based competition, but none of the real guts of one. 1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fi.reworks.redecor&hl=en_US&gl=US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fi.reworks.red...

> I'm sure there will be some good games soon about how insane it is that there's anti-vaxxers, or election deniers. Or a game where people think they can make a difference by voting harder!

adenozine 5y ago

I'm not anti-voting, but I guess I'm resigned to the "voting futility" idea that I think you're talking about. That being said, I am a faithful supporter of DSAUSA and have invested (rather than voted for) significant means towards the cause of a more socialistic reality in America. Faced with the size and influence of corporations in the world, I suppose it's the logical end of things that the world revolve around money and the means of "making" more money. I still vote too, but I guess I roll my eyes a little bit each time.

djbusby 5y ago

Voting does make a difference. Also, you can contribute to any candidates campaign - so you can money-vote in many places (USA)

indigochill 5y ago
> Voting does make a difference. In a parliamentary system, votes have a substantial impact. You can vote for a minority party that's actually aligned with your views and get represented if they get enough votes to get a seat in Parliament. It's not "throwing your vote away" like it is in the US. In a two-party first-past-the-post system, the impact of each vote is substantially reduced by comparison since not only are there only two competitive parties to vote for, but the winner takes everything. A vote for the "wrong" party means that vote leads to no representation. > Also, you can contribute to any candidates campaign - so you can money-vote in many places (USA) This is part of the problem in the US, because it gives the wealthiest interests the means to back their preferred representatives at amounts minority representatives can never hope to reach.
brimble 5y ago
It's fairly likely that, by the time I die, none of the voting I've done will have changed the outcome of a single election or ballot question. On the off chance it does, it'll almost certainly be at the county level or lower.

kelseyfrog 5y ago

I'm completely convinced that the voting in Redecor - Home Design Game[1] is completely random. What they've done is Skinner boxed their competitions in a way that more or less evenly distributes random rewards to maximize engagement rather than reward players based on merit. It has the veneer of a voting-based competition, but none of the real guts of one. 1. https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fi.reworks.redecor&hl=en_US&gl=US https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=fi.reworks.red...