> You aren't suggesting any solutions. I'm not a child psychotherapist (but I was married to one). But I believe that in the case of children, and possibly wit

> You aren't suggesting any solutions. I'm not a child psychotherapist (but I was married to one). But I believe that in the case of children, and possibly with adults too, providing a warm, supportive environment for the subject to explore their feelings and behaviour is at least part of a solution. > You shouldn't dilute the term abusive like that. What's your threshold for calling something "abuse"? At my school we had to play Rugby Union. In one year, several kids in my class were hospitalised with gashes caused by metal boot-studs in the scrum. My son had flat feet; running literally caused him pain. > I don't think you have kids I think you think too much. I have two adult kids, and two grandchildren. > just saying things you shouldn't do, leaving a parent with zero tools Well, the subject is the consequences of using incarceration as your parenting tool, so that's not surprising. I'm not suggesting that parenting is easy. And I'm certainly not going to point at some doctrine or methodology, and say "everyone should do it this way". People are people, and they're all different. There's no "right way" of dealing with people. But neglecting children, and then punishing them because they act up, is the "wrong way".