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Being disappeared doesn’t always refer to murder. For instance, Ma Yun (Jack Ma) was disappeared for some time last year.

daniel-cussen 5y ago
Depends a lot on context. Here in Chile, you can't be a poindexter with technicalities when people whose dictionaries were incinerated along with all their other books tell you of their uncle's (usually uncles) tragedies. But in this context, HN, it's fine. And you're right in many ways. So in fact the way Chilean human rights lawyers nailed some, but not all, of the military (but not civilian) torturers of the coup despite their amnesty when the military lost power, was by saying, well you have amnesty, but you don't have the body, so you can't prove you murdered him some time ago, for all we know he's still alive and you're kidnapping him to this day, so it's an ongoing crime, so you're still on the hook. Maybe his family is right in hoping he comes back any day now. And you deliberately wanted the family to hope that, you had decades to tell them you really were terrorising them. Or maybe you weren't, maybe he's in some attic in a jail somewhere, caught in a secret passage in a dungeon (real life dungeon adventure! real secret passages, traps, monsters, minibosses and final bosses!) but you lost track. Oh you looked twice? Look again! Looked again? Look again! And the subtext is "fuck you, obviously you're an asshole. You put remains into the subduction zone, you must accept the consequences of your actions, if you want to see the light of day again you'll have to take a submarine and then dig, dig with your hands and nails you piece of shit, until you find the body and bring it back. And don't resurface until you find it. If you don't like that, maybe you should have given him a funeral and informed the family of his death."

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Being disappeared doesn’t always refer to murder. For instance, Ma Yun (Jack Ma) was disappeared for some time last year.

by coffeeblack 5y ago

daniel-cussen 5y ago
Depends a lot on context. Here in Chile, you can't be a poindexter with technicalities when people whose dictionaries were incinerated along with all their other books tell you of their uncle's (usually uncles) tragedies. But in this context, HN, it's fine. And you're right in many ways. So in fact the way Chilean human rights lawyers nailed some, but not all, of the military (but not civilian) torturers of the coup despite their amnesty when the military lost power, was by saying, well you have amnesty, but you don't have the body, so you can't prove you murdered him some time ago, for all we know he's still alive and you're kidnapping him to this day, so it's an ongoing crime, so you're still on the hook. Maybe his family is right in hoping he comes back any day now. And you deliberately wanted the family to hope that, you had decades to tell them you really were terrorising them. Or maybe you weren't, maybe he's in some attic in a jail somewhere, caught in a secret passage in a dungeon (real life dungeon adventure! real secret passages, traps, monsters, minibosses and final bosses!) but you lost track. Oh you looked twice? Look again! Looked again? Look again! And the subtext is "fuck you, obviously you're an asshole. You put remains into the subduction zone, you must accept the consequences of your actions, if you want to see the light of day again you'll have to take a submarine and then dig, dig with your hands and nails you piece of shit, until you find the body and bring it back. And don't resurface until you find it. If you don't like that, maybe you should have given him a funeral and informed the family of his death."