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I nearly fully agree. I would only ask for clarification of one aspect: > to be harassed What is the definition of harassment being used? Because I experience

I nearly fully agree. I would only ask for clarification of one aspect: > to be harassed What is the definition of harassment being used? Because I experience more and more people who feel harassed when having their opinion critiqued in a discussion and claiming freedom of speach. While they are actually claiming that they want the right to say anything they like without consequences and don't want others to be allowed to argue against their voiced views (and in that denying the same level of freedom of speech to others).

ThrowawayR2 5y ago
I refer you to the UN Declaration of Human Rights, article 19 for a good modern formulation of freedom of speech: "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." The above goes against the desires of both the illiberal progressive left and the conservatives in their desire to deplatform those who express beliefs they don't like.
- sdoering 5y ago
  > this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference Aren't to hold views and to express views two significantly different things? > seek, receive and impart information Does information include proven falsehoods like vaccination causes autism? In general I agree, but people weaponizing this to inoculate against critique is probably not in the ideas of those who wrote this. Call me illiberal or conservative. I don't care for these weaponized labels. To me, having grown up in Germany, there are very clear borders to "free speech". Denying the holocaust. Insulting/denigrating/dehumanizing other people. Stating falsehoods as facts. Exactly as our law sees this. Time and time this imho very sensible approach has proven to be healthy for society.

ThrowawayR2 5y ago

I refer you to the UN Declaration of Human Rights, article 19 for a good modern formulation of freedom of speech: "Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers." The above goes against the desires of both the illiberal progressive left and the conservatives in their desire to deplatform those who express beliefs they don't like.

sdoering 5y ago
> this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference Aren't to hold views and to express views two significantly different things? > seek, receive and impart information Does information include proven falsehoods like vaccination causes autism? In general I agree, but people weaponizing this to inoculate against critique is probably not in the ideas of those who wrote this. Call me illiberal or conservative. I don't care for these weaponized labels. To me, having grown up in Germany, there are very clear borders to "free speech". Denying the holocaust. Insulting/denigrating/dehumanizing other people. Stating falsehoods as facts. Exactly as our law sees this. Time and time this imho very sensible approach has proven to be healthy for society.