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I don't think "the IT community" (is there even such a thing) has any sort of power where corruption in the traditional sense can even exist. Something like Kid

by pc86 5y ago

I don't think "the IT community" (is there even such a thing) has any sort of power where corruption in the traditional sense can even exist. Something like Kids for Cash is an institutional failing and requires the concerted effort and coordination of multiple, theoretically unrelated - or even opposed - parties that all have a lot of institutional power rarely found outside of government. Even huge multinational corporations worth hundreds of billions don't have the kind of power needed to literally sell kids into slavery with the blessing of the judiciary.

aspenmayer 5y ago
Look at Lapsus$. They were enabled by corruption in the IT community. Due to effects of scale, corruption in IT doesn’t have to be widespread to have major effects worldwide.
scythe 5y ago
I think the closest analogy is the circulation of insecure software with aggressive marketing and its adoption in the sphere of direct and de facto coercion. The Equifax situation did not receive a great public post-mortem that went deeper into generally applied business practices than "credit processors bad".
wolverine876 5y ago
> I don't think "the IT community" (is there even such a thing) has any sort of power where corruption in the traditional sense can even exist. My advice was "look in the mirror"; I understand the parent's advice as "don't look in the mirror, there can't possibly be anything to see there". Responses like that are why we see nothing, hear nothing (and shut it down - discredit it, attack it, etc. - immediately if we do), and do nothing. I expect that people in Luzerne County had denials too. People can talk about and around these things infinitely, and they do. Therefore the only question we should ask is, what are we going to do? Edit: Abusing children isn't the only corruption, in case that's how you interpreted it. The amount of scams, fraud, mass surveillance, manipulation, etc. in our industry is astounding.
newaccount74 5y ago
There's corruption at every level in the IT community. On a large scale, there was a recent article how Microsoft is paying millions in bribes to local officials. On a small scale, I have been approached by acquaintances who suggested they'd sign off on a large contract for me to make some trivial app if I paid them a percentage under the table.
DiggyJohnson 5y ago
The Middle Ground is wide open my friend. Try and land there, and consider that this reply seems to forget it’s existence.

by pc86 5y ago

aspenmayer 5y ago

Look at Lapsus$. They were enabled by corruption in the IT community. Due to effects of scale, corruption in IT doesn’t have to be widespread to have major effects worldwide.

scythe 5y ago

I think the closest analogy is the circulation of insecure software with aggressive marketing and its adoption in the sphere of direct and de facto coercion. The Equifax situation did not receive a great public post-mortem that went deeper into generally applied business practices than "credit processors bad".

wolverine876 5y ago

> I don't think "the IT community" (is there even such a thing) has any sort of power where corruption in the traditional sense can even exist. My advice was "look in the mirror"; I understand the parent's advice as "don't look in the mirror, there can't possibly be anything to see there". Responses like that are why we see nothing, hear nothing (and shut it down - discredit it, attack it, etc. - immediately if we do), and do nothing. I expect that people in Luzerne County had denials too. People can talk about and around these things infinitely, and they do. Therefore the only question we should ask is, what are we going to do? Edit: Abusing children isn't the only corruption, in case that's how you interpreted it. The amount of scams, fraud, mass surveillance, manipulation, etc. in our industry is astounding.

newaccount74 5y ago

There's corruption at every level in the IT community. On a large scale, there was a recent article how Microsoft is paying millions in bribes to local officials. On a small scale, I have been approached by acquaintances who suggested they'd sign off on a large contract for me to make some trivial app if I paid them a percentage under the table.

DiggyJohnson 5y ago

The Middle Ground is wide open my friend. Try and land there, and consider that this reply seems to forget it’s existence.