Idk, honestly. Maybe there's no way to answer all of these concurrently. I definitely here your point on non-intellectual populism. There's no requirement for

Idk, honestly. Maybe there's no way to answer all of these concurrently. I definitely here your point on non-intellectual populism. There's no requirement for everyone to be an intellectual and a worldview that does require this is also elitist. Otoh, I don't see many people reacting well to the moral handicap frame either. Personally, the route I usually go down is to (1) acknowledge that we disagree and (2) show that I can articulate their view respectfully. This is also a basis to move from. I don't think it's the structure or or content of the argument that matters... it's softer aspects like signaling respect, friendship and such. I don't think this is about making a perfect argument though. I think it takes a complex, multi-year "conversation." Imo, there's a lot to be learned from feminism. Pissing people off, being the object of hatred and derision was always going to be on a feminist menu. There was never going to be a way forward for feminism that didn't deeply offend and insult a lot of people. It doesn't end there though. The conversation goes on. Sometimes the femenists walked away from some of their arguments. Often, society conceded feminist viewpoints after years of deriding them. They didn't expect it to be respectful and pleasant at all times. Maybe you have to go through phases of tension to eventually come back together later.