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Everyone complaining about google’s “declining quality” is living in some fantasy world where there’s something better to compare google to. Its results are sig

by togaen 5y ago

Everyone complaining about google’s “declining quality” is living in some fantasy world where there’s something better to compare google to. Its results are significantly better than any competitor, check for yourself. If you think you can do better, go for it.

festive-minsky 5y ago
“declining quality” means current google vs past google, not other search engines
- jpalomaki 5y ago
  This is also not a fair comparison, because Internet is changing constantly.
  - tyingq 5y ago
    Seems fair to me. They did improve quality for quite a long time. The quality only seemed to start dipping when shareholder expectations started driving what SERP pages look like. Or, roughly, "The goals of the advertising business model do not always correspond to providing quality search to users"
  - tetris11 5y ago
    Yeah, and large near-monopolies grow complacent.
- bostik 5y ago
  In 2014, I was cursing the shitty search results of GDrive - and asked aloud why can't a company known for their search engine make all their search systems equally good. It's 2022, and Google search is just as shitty as their GDrive search.
keiferski 5y ago
“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow [search engine]; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Ernest Hemingway, paraphrased
tyingq 5y ago
I think that's a good point. Google knows nobody is reasonably able to do better. So they are free to optimize for ad revenue, and leave organic search "just good enough" to stave off anyone else. In fact, great organic search could lower ad revenue. I imagine there's some balance there.
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mellosouls 5y ago
Nope. Living in the real world with experience of how good Google used to be. The high number of posts on the subject suggests real decline, and stopping that decline won't be helped by a rose-tinted assessment of the current situation.
ls15 5y ago
> Its results are significantly better than any competitor, check for yourself. Maybe I don't have very high standards, or maybe it is the way I write search queries, but I almost only use DDG and the results are good enough for me. I just find what I am looking for. There usually is just no reason for me to use something else, so why would I want to put my privacy into the lion's cage? The few times I landed on Google's result page during the last couple of years, I found the results more confusing than helpful. Maybe I unlearned how to use Google.

by togaen 5y ago

festive-minsky 5y ago

“declining quality” means current google vs past google, not other search engines

jpalomaki 5y ago
This is also not a fair comparison, because Internet is changing constantly.
- tyingq 5y ago
  Seems fair to me. They did improve quality for quite a long time. The quality only seemed to start dipping when shareholder expectations started driving what SERP pages look like. Or, roughly, "The goals of the advertising business model do not always correspond to providing quality search to users"
- tetris11 5y ago
  Yeah, and large near-monopolies grow complacent.
bostik 5y ago
In 2014, I was cursing the shitty search results of GDrive - and asked aloud why can't a company known for their search engine make all their search systems equally good. It's 2022, and Google search is just as shitty as their GDrive search.

keiferski 5y ago

“There is nothing noble in being superior to your fellow [search engine]; true nobility is being superior to your former self.” - Ernest Hemingway, paraphrased

tyingq 5y ago

I think that's a good point. Google knows nobody is reasonably able to do better. So they are free to optimize for ad revenue, and leave organic search "just good enough" to stave off anyone else. In fact, great organic search could lower ad revenue. I imagine there's some balance there.

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mellosouls 5y ago

Nope. Living in the real world with experience of how good Google used to be. The high number of posts on the subject suggests real decline, and stopping that decline won't be helped by a rose-tinted assessment of the current situation.

ls15 5y ago

> Its results are significantly better than any competitor, check for yourself. Maybe I don't have very high standards, or maybe it is the way I write search queries, but I almost only use DDG and the results are good enough for me. I just find what I am looking for. There usually is just no reason for me to use something else, so why would I want to put my privacy into the lion's cage? The few times I landed on Google's result page during the last couple of years, I found the results more confusing than helpful. Maybe I unlearned how to use Google.