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>Or maybe I’m the one hearing (or failing to hear) things? I would love to hear from any readers who could give me any idea of what kind of headspace I’d have t

>Or maybe I’m the one hearing (or failing to hear) things? I would love to hear from any readers who could give me any idea of what kind of headspace I’d have to inhabit to find Pet Sounds more impressive, enjoyable, or [any positive adjective]4 than A Love Supreme! We're very deep in the subjectivity foxhole here, but nevertheless, from one person who never had any clue as to why people enjoy Jazz (other than it's "cool" to claim that you like it), I find Pet Sounds a million times better than anything Coltrane ever did.

andybak 5y ago
I don't like all jazz (or even most jazz) but the few pieces I do know well enough to like I really like. And several of those are by John Coltrane's classic quartet: Afro Blue, Favourite Things spring to mind. I like them for similar reason I like other music. It makes the hairs on the back of neck stand up and I feel stronger emotions than I'm normally capable of. It feels like the smartest, most interesting people I've ever met are talking directly to me. (Interestingly - I can't get on with Love Supreme. I've tried but I lost the thread a few minutes in.)
palata 5y ago
My opinion is that it is difficult to enjoy music we don't understand. I realise one does not have to love everything about a whole style of music, but not having a clue why this whole style may be enjoyable sounds like maybe you haven't been much exposed to it. So here is one (genuinely interested) question: how much do you know about jazz?
- ur-whale 5y ago
  > how much do you know about jazz? I live with someone who loves it and listens to a lot of it, and I am exposed (subjected) to a wide variety of the stuff at very regular intervals, much to my dislike. Also, I don't "know" about music, the very notion is weird to me. I listen to it and know how it makes me feel. What I do know is how I feel when I listen to Jazz: I don't find the experience pleasant at all: it's (to my ears) unstructured and lacks melody, and the only feeling I'm experiencing when listening to it is mild irritation. Some smooth jazz is palatable but doesn't make me feel much more than elevator muzak does.

andybak 5y ago

I don't like all jazz (or even most jazz) but the few pieces I do know well enough to like I really like. And several of those are by John Coltrane's classic quartet: Afro Blue, Favourite Things spring to mind. I like them for similar reason I like other music. It makes the hairs on the back of neck stand up and I feel stronger emotions than I'm normally capable of. It feels like the smartest, most interesting people I've ever met are talking directly to me. (Interestingly - I can't get on with Love Supreme. I've tried but I lost the thread a few minutes in.)

palata 5y ago

My opinion is that it is difficult to enjoy music we don't understand. I realise one does not have to love everything about a whole style of music, but not having a clue why this whole style may be enjoyable sounds like maybe you haven't been much exposed to it. So here is one (genuinely interested) question: how much do you know about jazz?

ur-whale 5y ago
> how much do you know about jazz? I live with someone who loves it and listens to a lot of it, and I am exposed (subjected) to a wide variety of the stuff at very regular intervals, much to my dislike. Also, I don't "know" about music, the very notion is weird to me. I listen to it and know how it makes me feel. What I do know is how I feel when I listen to Jazz: I don't find the experience pleasant at all: it's (to my ears) unstructured and lacks melody, and the only feeling I'm experiencing when listening to it is mild irritation. Some smooth jazz is palatable but doesn't make me feel much more than elevator muzak does.