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But what specifically is it? Just random stuff in deep space between galaxies? I’d have thought most of the space between galaxies is mostly truly empty.

• site-packages1 5y ago
  Isn't the paradox that if the universe is static in size or shrinking, eventually all the light would fill the sky into a blinding display, rather than dark. So it's a function of the universe expanding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Olbers%27_paradox
• nprecup 5y ago
  The noise is inherent to our sensor technology... Very sensitive telescopes are cryogenically cooled to reduce the temperature of the focal plane, reducing the noise. As in an above comment, the light from distant objects is more spread out and appears weaker - fewer photos are arriving each second and hitting the focal plane than if the telescope were closer. At a certain point, the signal gets buried in the noise. I worked on the BICEP Array telescope at the south Pole - the light we are observing is actually extremely low energy and we can't see it unless our detectors are colder than the light source we are looking at (which is about 2.7K). We cool our detectors to 0.3K!
  • daniel-cussen 5y ago
    Does the natural cold at the South Pole make it much easier to cool the instruments down that low? I know it's around 200K at its lowest, how does that make it easier and cheaper?
    • nprecup 5y ago
      Yes, there are several factors that make that location particularly good, not only temperature. The cold and absence of sunlight for months at a time causes a relative absence of water vapor in the atmosphere during winter, which is extremely important for CMB observations. The high elevation (~10k ft) means there is less atmosphere to look through as well. During summers the sky heats up, contains more water vapor, and reflects so much more light that our telescopes become substantially less effective. Another advantage to the South Pole is the ability to continuously observe the same part of the sky, as the telescope is located on the earths axis there is no rising and setting of sky overhead. There is also a particularly 'dark' patch of sky in the southern hemisphere called the 'southern hole'. This is located up and away from the plane of our galaxy and contains very few objects standing in the 'path' of the CMB which also helps obtain better quality observations of the CMB. Edit - it is as good as it gets on earth and way cheaper than a satellite! Other benefits are rapid upgrades and repairs with newer technology. A satellite, by the time it is deployed, is already pretty old! But the South Pole still isn't cheap!
• pgorczak 5y ago
  As a sibling already mentioned, thermal noise occurs in the sensors. And there is also a range of cosmic background radiation coming in, including the cosmic microwave background which is just everywhere and is almost as old as the universe.
• pjc50 5y ago
  The noise is coming from inside the sensor: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnson%E2%80%93Nyquist_noise Cryogenically cooling helps, but since you can't hit absolute zero you can't entirely eliminate it.
  • alecbz 5y ago
    Right, what I was missing was why how far the source of the light is effects how much the noise matters, but the inverse square photon concentration explains that.
  • passivate 5y ago
    There is read noise from downstream electronics converting photons to electrons, but the "shot noise" is a property of the photon stream and will be present regardless of how much we improve the electronics. Cooling the detector won't help there. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise#Optics https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shot_noise#Optics