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> Despite all the posts about the declining quality of Google We assume people in general are dissatisfied with Google, because there are blog posts about it,

> Despite all the posts about the declining quality of Google We assume people in general are dissatisfied with Google, because there are blog posts about it, and some people on HN agree, and because we have certain strongly held beliefs and technical knowledge that lead us to this conclusion. What we have not validated is whether people outside the tech community are as dissatisfied as we are. If they aren't willing to switch, then there won't be a notable competitor to Google.

Ekaros 5y ago
I'm dissatisfied with google for my normal use cases too... But that is more with the state of the Internet in general. But on other hand I hate fuzzy search, trying to help me... Those keywords are there for reason and might even be spelled right...
dylan604 5y ago
No, I don't buy that at all. There are way more factors that play in to this. To me, the biggest one is humans just are lazy. In face of factual evidence, people continue to ignore it. This plays out in many different facets. We know that Big Tobacco maniuplates their formulas to make things unnaturally addicting and are incredibly bad for people's health. People continue to smoke. We know that processed foods are just not healthy for people, yet because of it's readily being available and cheap prices, people continue to eat it. We know that the Earth is not flat, but people continue to believe that it is. Just having the knowledge that [Google|Facebook|TikTok|$socialMediaPlatform] is manipulating what you see/read/consume in ways that benefit them and at times is actively harmful to the users doesn't mean people will stop.
sidibe 5y ago
I don't know anyone outside of HN who talks about bad google search results. The ones I know using other search engines are doing it for privacy or anti-monopoly reasons. Only HN seem to remember the glory days when Google always delivered exactly what you need before the continuous decline that warrants several of these 100+ comments threads a week for 10 years. For me today as in yesterday it is just a decent search engine that works as I expect

Ekaros 5y ago

I'm dissatisfied with google for my normal use cases too... But that is more with the state of the Internet in general. But on other hand I hate fuzzy search, trying to help me... Those keywords are there for reason and might even be spelled right...

dylan604 5y ago

No, I don't buy that at all. There are way more factors that play in to this. To me, the biggest one is humans just are lazy. In face of factual evidence, people continue to ignore it. This plays out in many different facets. We know that Big Tobacco maniuplates their formulas to make things unnaturally addicting and are incredibly bad for people's health. People continue to smoke. We know that processed foods are just not healthy for people, yet because of it's readily being available and cheap prices, people continue to eat it. We know that the Earth is not flat, but people continue to believe that it is. Just having the knowledge that [Google|Facebook|TikTok|$socialMediaPlatform] is manipulating what you see/read/consume in ways that benefit them and at times is actively harmful to the users doesn't mean people will stop.

sidibe 5y ago

I don't know anyone outside of HN who talks about bad google search results. The ones I know using other search engines are doing it for privacy or anti-monopoly reasons. Only HN seem to remember the glory days when Google always delivered exactly what you need before the continuous decline that warrants several of these 100+ comments threads a week for 10 years. For me today as in yesterday it is just a decent search engine that works as I expect