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Because Google is the best you're going to get with ad-supported search. If you're willing to pay for search there is an alternative emerging: Kagi. It's not a

Because Google is the best you're going to get with ad-supported search. If you're willing to pay for search there is an alternative emerging: Kagi. It's not a Google competitor, though. It's a niche product for people (like me) who are willing to pay a significant amount of money for access to a search engine whose creators make money by providing value to their users rather than by providing their users to advertisers.

Closi 5y ago
Kagi’s pricing strategy is ridiculous. A single search can cost 5 cents in charges if I click through a few filters. IMO Kagi can only appeal to people who care about search enough to pay and don’t search enough to make it too expensive, which is probably a contradiction.
- omnicognate 5y ago
  From https://kagi.com/faq https://kagi.com/faq, emphasis mine. > We plan to offer entry level plans for as low as $10/month, *unlimited plan at around $20-$30/mo" as well as have bundles (to include Kagi email and other services), organization/team plans, family plans and annual payment discounts available. I don't know where you're getting 5c per search from, but that unlimited plan would cap it at something I could live with and I doubt I'll need it.
  - Closi 5y ago
    > I don't know where you're getting 5c per search from, but that unlimited plan would cap it at something I could live with and I doubt I'll need it. I said a single search 'can cost' 5 cents, but in reality it depends on the search and how many filters you apply. You can view the cost of your searches on your account. Each 'user search' can be multiple 'charged searches', which is why the cost can be >5c for some searches (e.g. if you search Dog, then click images and size -> large this is 3 searches charged to your account not one, and if you click through various options to refine your image search each click is chargable for instance). If you click on the top result, find out it's not what you wanted so hit back, then click on the second result, this is charged as two searches if your browser prompts a reload - which depends on the page you visit (even though I would class it as a single search).
    - freediver 5y ago
      This is not a single search, in your example the user just made three distinctive searches. If you have a better business model, that does not involve building yet another ad-supported search engine, we are all ears!
      - Closi 5y ago
        How do you propose I search for a large image of a cat within your UI that does not take 3 distinct searches then? I don't think most users would think this was 3 distinct searches, if it's just going through the steps you are required to take to get the single search you want.
        freediver 5y ago
        There are two steps needed instead of three as you can search images directly. Searching for a large image (or any other search where filters and modifiers are used) are probably less than 0.1% of all searches so this use case is not worth optimizing for yet as it would not have a meaningful impact on overall average monthly cost.
        Closi 5y ago
        I think there is a difference between what you (as the creator) seem to see as a search vs what a user would understand a search to be.

Closi 5y ago

Kagi’s pricing strategy is ridiculous. A single search can cost 5 cents in charges if I click through a few filters. IMO Kagi can only appeal to people who care about search enough to pay and don’t search enough to make it too expensive, which is probably a contradiction.

omnicognate 5y ago
From https://kagi.com/faq https://kagi.com/faq, emphasis mine. > We plan to offer entry level plans for as low as $10/month, *unlimited plan at around $20-$30/mo" as well as have bundles (to include Kagi email and other services), organization/team plans, family plans and annual payment discounts available. I don't know where you're getting 5c per search from, but that unlimited plan would cap it at something I could live with and I doubt I'll need it.
- Closi 5y ago
  > I don't know where you're getting 5c per search from, but that unlimited plan would cap it at something I could live with and I doubt I'll need it. I said a single search 'can cost' 5 cents, but in reality it depends on the search and how many filters you apply. You can view the cost of your searches on your account. Each 'user search' can be multiple 'charged searches', which is why the cost can be >5c for some searches (e.g. if you search Dog, then click images and size -> large this is 3 searches charged to your account not one, and if you click through various options to refine your image search each click is chargable for instance). If you click on the top result, find out it's not what you wanted so hit back, then click on the second result, this is charged as two searches if your browser prompts a reload - which depends on the page you visit (even though I would class it as a single search).
  - freediver 5y ago
    This is not a single search, in your example the user just made three distinctive searches. If you have a better business model, that does not involve building yet another ad-supported search engine, we are all ears!
    - Closi 5y ago
      How do you propose I search for a large image of a cat within your UI that does not take 3 distinct searches then? I don't think most users would think this was 3 distinct searches, if it's just going through the steps you are required to take to get the single search you want.
      - freediver 5y ago
        There are two steps needed instead of three as you can search images directly. Searching for a large image (or any other search where filters and modifiers are used) are probably less than 0.1% of all searches so this use case is not worth optimizing for yet as it would not have a meaningful impact on overall average monthly cost.
        Closi 5y ago
        I think there is a difference between what you (as the creator) seem to see as a search vs what a user would understand a search to be.