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Important reminder: don’t talk too much publicly about your (wife’s) TikTok feed, because it says more about you than you’d think. I’ve seen so many people com

Important reminder: don’t talk too much publicly about your (wife’s) TikTok feed, because it says more about you than you’d think. I’ve seen so many people complain that “tiktok keeps showing them young girls dancing” lol.

dougmwne 5y ago
This is spot on. One person I know gets pimple popping on a fresh TikTok feed within minutes. I have no idea how the algorithm can converge on that so fast, but its certainly some dark NN magic.
Kye 5y ago
The hard truth. I don't use TikTok right now, but this is the kind of stuff I would see: https://twitter.com/Vomit_Dragon/status/1506109341484474370 https://twitter.com/Vomit_Dragon/status/1506109341484474370 https://twitter.com/WatsyTheOtt/status/1507646007294631941 https://twitter.com/WatsyTheOtt/status/1507646007294631941 https://twitter.com/thecoopertom/status/1507592587426906114 https://twitter.com/thecoopertom/status/1507592587426906114 https://twitter.com/tealeafraccoon/status/1507350038074245123 https://twitter.com/tealeafraccoon/status/150735003807424512... Some of it is actually from TikTok.
sizzle 5y ago
I don’t understand, what does this signal about you personally?
- norlytho 5y ago
  Nothing. Crubier is just an absolute clown that doesn't understand Global and Demographic algorithms also exist, and prioritize pushing content that other people have watched for long and consistent periods.
- Micoloth 5y ago
  That you (consciously or not) like young dancing girls This might not be a problem, of course, but in other situations might be something you don’t want to make public?
  - Method-X 5y ago
    To be fair, assuming he’s a heterosexual male, isn’t it just assumed he would like young dancing girls?
    - nindalf 5y ago
      Young meaning really young.
      - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
        Not really - just mostly Asian, so perhaps to you they look younger than they are.
        crubier 5y ago
        Lolll read my message above again! Most of us get exactly zero Asian girls on our TikTok. You just basically told everyone that TikTok detected that you probably have a (maybe subconscious) attraction to Asian girls.
        norlytho 5y ago
        The only revelation here is that you have zero idea how these app algorithms work.
        kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
        I don't get those young girls (I mean children as you seem to imply) - but replying to your message, I assume some did. Or rather you did, or else how would you know they are "very young girls"? It seems really off to accuse random people on the internet to be attracted to kids. What I was saying is that I was shown young women, but it still annoyed me. As for attraction - that is what TikTok's algorithm started out with, and I liked some of them, because why not? As I said, they are cute and they put in the effort to do some funny stunts or whatever. I didn't dislike them, so why not press "like"? Doesn't mean I want to see those girls all the time. Also yeah, I am a heterosexual male, so young women are attractive to me. I probably would have liked a lot of cat videos, too, if TikTok had shown them to me. Doesn't mean I want to see cat videos all the time, either, and also not that I am sexually attracted to cats. I only tried TikTok for maybe two days, so I really think it is a failure of the algorithm, not a reveal of my subconsciousness. Since everybody was raving about the TikTok algorithm, which is what made me try it out in the first place, I assumed that I wouldn't have to be super careful in "training" the algorithm. Apparently I assumed wrong.
flycaliguy 5y ago
In my case the algorithm decided I should be slowly forwarded into the arms of a pharmacist prescribing a stimulant to help with a bunch of mildly ADHD/ASD quirks in my personality.
kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
TikTok didn't work for me because of the young dancing girls. Yes, I clicked "like" on some of them, because they ARE cute and put in the effort. Doesn't mean I want to see young dancing girls all the time. TikTok showed me stuff and since I liked it, I clicked like. So TikTok shows me more of the same stuff, and not the other stuff which I might also like. So I guess you have to be super disciplined to get a nice TikTok feed? Or just try it long enough? Or it only works for women, because they may click less on young dancing girls?
- crubier 5y ago
  Lol. Assuming you’re not trolling, I’d say yes, you have to be aware that any signal from you (including time spent watching each video) is analyzed by TikTok.
  - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
    So what? I don't know what you are implying? So you never like videos of young women dancing? You go on TikTok and are very disciplined to only click on videos with CSS hacks or something? I uninstalled it for two days, so I really don't have a guilty conscience of secretly liking young girls or whatever. It was ultimately just annoying.
- NikolaNovak 5y ago
  Yeah that's a problem with all of these things. They scrape SO much data, they seem to do SO many nefarious things... and still, if I ever look up a dishwasher (a once every half a decade purchase), amazon and google will forever assume I'm HUGELY into dishwashers. It seems their fancy profiling algorithm is "last in, first out". Same with youtube - I want to be able to occasionally watch something without it assuming I want that ALL the time, to exclusion of everything else. Yes, I checked out a video on how to change the filter on my laundry machine; yes I needed to fix my snow blower. These things are not my life now! <slap my face emoji> Basically, I'm stunned how unsophisticated and unhelpful these algorithms are to me as a consumer, though I suppose they are effective to company who wants to drive "Engagement" without caring any further than that. P.S. And now that I have kids, oh boy are these systems ever confused :D. If I stop to show my kid something on my phone, that's all I'll see for next 3 weeks.
nicbou 5y ago
Young dancing girls is exactly how it was advertised to me, a not-so-young adult, when it was still called Musical.ly. I remember being throughly creeped out by how shameless those musical.ly YouTube ads were.

dougmwne 5y ago

This is spot on. One person I know gets pimple popping on a fresh TikTok feed within minutes. I have no idea how the algorithm can converge on that so fast, but its certainly some dark NN magic.

Kye 5y ago

The hard truth. I don't use TikTok right now, but this is the kind of stuff I would see: https://twitter.com/Vomit_Dragon/status/1506109341484474370 https://twitter.com/Vomit_Dragon/status/1506109341484474370 https://twitter.com/WatsyTheOtt/status/1507646007294631941 https://twitter.com/WatsyTheOtt/status/1507646007294631941 https://twitter.com/thecoopertom/status/1507592587426906114 https://twitter.com/thecoopertom/status/1507592587426906114 https://twitter.com/tealeafraccoon/status/1507350038074245123 https://twitter.com/tealeafraccoon/status/150735003807424512... Some of it is actually from TikTok.

sizzle 5y ago

I don’t understand, what does this signal about you personally?

norlytho 5y ago
Nothing. Crubier is just an absolute clown that doesn't understand Global and Demographic algorithms also exist, and prioritize pushing content that other people have watched for long and consistent periods.
Micoloth 5y ago
That you (consciously or not) like young dancing girls This might not be a problem, of course, but in other situations might be something you don’t want to make public?
- Method-X 5y ago
  To be fair, assuming he’s a heterosexual male, isn’t it just assumed he would like young dancing girls?
  - nindalf 5y ago
    Young meaning really young.
    - kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
      Not really - just mostly Asian, so perhaps to you they look younger than they are.
      - crubier 5y ago
        Lolll read my message above again! Most of us get exactly zero Asian girls on our TikTok. You just basically told everyone that TikTok detected that you probably have a (maybe subconscious) attraction to Asian girls.
        norlytho 5y ago
        The only revelation here is that you have zero idea how these app algorithms work.
        kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
        I don't get those young girls (I mean children as you seem to imply) - but replying to your message, I assume some did. Or rather you did, or else how would you know they are "very young girls"? It seems really off to accuse random people on the internet to be attracted to kids. What I was saying is that I was shown young women, but it still annoyed me. As for attraction - that is what TikTok's algorithm started out with, and I liked some of them, because why not? As I said, they are cute and they put in the effort to do some funny stunts or whatever. I didn't dislike them, so why not press "like"? Doesn't mean I want to see those girls all the time. Also yeah, I am a heterosexual male, so young women are attractive to me. I probably would have liked a lot of cat videos, too, if TikTok had shown them to me. Doesn't mean I want to see cat videos all the time, either, and also not that I am sexually attracted to cats. I only tried TikTok for maybe two days, so I really think it is a failure of the algorithm, not a reveal of my subconsciousness. Since everybody was raving about the TikTok algorithm, which is what made me try it out in the first place, I assumed that I wouldn't have to be super careful in "training" the algorithm. Apparently I assumed wrong.

flycaliguy 5y ago

In my case the algorithm decided I should be slowly forwarded into the arms of a pharmacist prescribing a stimulant to help with a bunch of mildly ADHD/ASD quirks in my personality.

kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago

TikTok didn't work for me because of the young dancing girls. Yes, I clicked "like" on some of them, because they ARE cute and put in the effort. Doesn't mean I want to see young dancing girls all the time. TikTok showed me stuff and since I liked it, I clicked like. So TikTok shows me more of the same stuff, and not the other stuff which I might also like. So I guess you have to be super disciplined to get a nice TikTok feed? Or just try it long enough? Or it only works for women, because they may click less on young dancing girls?

crubier 5y ago
Lol. Assuming you’re not trolling, I’d say yes, you have to be aware that any signal from you (including time spent watching each video) is analyzed by TikTok.
- kkjjkgjjgg 5y ago
  So what? I don't know what you are implying? So you never like videos of young women dancing? You go on TikTok and are very disciplined to only click on videos with CSS hacks or something? I uninstalled it for two days, so I really don't have a guilty conscience of secretly liking young girls or whatever. It was ultimately just annoying.
NikolaNovak 5y ago
Yeah that's a problem with all of these things. They scrape SO much data, they seem to do SO many nefarious things... and still, if I ever look up a dishwasher (a once every half a decade purchase), amazon and google will forever assume I'm HUGELY into dishwashers. It seems their fancy profiling algorithm is "last in, first out". Same with youtube - I want to be able to occasionally watch something without it assuming I want that ALL the time, to exclusion of everything else. Yes, I checked out a video on how to change the filter on my laundry machine; yes I needed to fix my snow blower. These things are not my life now! <slap my face emoji> Basically, I'm stunned how unsophisticated and unhelpful these algorithms are to me as a consumer, though I suppose they are effective to company who wants to drive "Engagement" without caring any further than that. P.S. And now that I have kids, oh boy are these systems ever confused :D. If I stop to show my kid something on my phone, that's all I'll see for next 3 weeks.

nicbou 5y ago

Young dancing girls is exactly how it was advertised to me, a not-so-young adult, when it was still called Musical.ly. I remember being throughly creeped out by how shameless those musical.ly YouTube ads were.